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I'm all for being open minded but this Hidden Hand stuff :comeon:

I need some kind of proof this isn't some cac with a wild ass imagination.

I actually read that first HH sessions, shyt was stupid.

All the shyt he predicted did not come true in 2008 2009 and 2010. Dude said San Fran would be uninhabitable by the end of 2010.

Troll genius
 

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A lot of what HH says has been covered in a lot of esoteric texts. He just happens to have deep understanding of it, and good grammar. That being said, I don't think that detracts from the message he is putting out. You can take away from it what you will.

Someone even pointed this out at the bottom of the page:

ATS: Yes, however the things/thoughts/ideas! he is speaking of are already a piece of copyrighted material and have been published in book format with ISBN numbers and all. The books are called the Law of One.

This/these books deal with the very same ideas as the OP:

1. Negative and positive polarization
2. Degrees of density
3. Even the same exact term: social memory complex!
4. harvest is used in the same context
5. Evolution between densities
6. Logos and sub-logos are used in the same context
7. The same concept of Wanderers
8. The concept of Infinity becoming aware of itself
9. The same idea of vibrations in the same context
10. The concept of 'us' progressing to the fourth density with the next harvest (2012) and how many of 'us' will have to repeat the third density.

There are well over 50 examples of the same ideas and contexts between the original author (L/L Research) and Hidden Hand.



L/L Research dates back to the 1981 timeframe, thereby leading me to believe that they are the original author. Again please note that the definition of plagiarism is the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.



Therefore, if Hidden Hand is not with L/L Research he is clearly plagiarizing their ideas and thoughts.
 

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people need to seriously understand the meaning of a word before they demonize it. And it means hidden because the vast majority are too dumb and lazy to seek out any occult text themselves to delve into the matter. These texts aren't hidden behind lock and key in a remote middle eastern desert. Go to Barnes and Nobles and buy the Kybalion, Secret Teachings of All Ages, etc. if you doubt me. You'll find the vast majority of occult texts deals with learning how to consciously changes ones mental state. Nothing scary about it. :leostare:


this is the issue with 75% of HL... they criticize the occult and metaphysics when they have not cracked a single book dealing with the subject
 

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I actually read that first HH sessions, shyt was stupid.

All the shyt he predicted did not come true in 2008 2009 and 2010. Dude said San Fran would be uninhabitable by the end of 2010.

Troll genius

Yeah I kind of felt the same but he kept covering his tracks saying that wasn't his lane. But past that you can't argue that trolling or not he's a knowledgeable:troll: his insight game is :whew:

I won't lie I felt strange reading the lucifer pov given my mom raised me in church. not that i agree with any of it but at this stage in my life I need the Bible to step it's game up from thee, shall, thou. Adam &Eve Noah, fables. I dont even trust the king James version to be accurate for God sakes Jesus been white for years:wtf: I would love to hear a Christian version broken down like this.
 

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It's amazing how much power free masons have over local governments (cities, suburbs, etc)
 

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Very powerful post tht i will have to reread when not sleepy... Discussion wise this throws a wrench in some beliefs ive learned over time and incorporated into my open mind...

How do u feel about the notion that every thing weve "learned" or been conditioned to is either a lie, or backwards?

In a nutshell: the guys they tell us are "good" are really "bad" and vice versa.

I always used the metaphor of acting like ur throwin a bone to a dog but really hiding it behind ur back... In relation to religon, etc being pushed to the masses. We lool for the bone they "threw" while they :eat: off everything that is deemed taboo, evil, etc
im in the same boat, nikka got me 2nd guessin myself now :dry:

I'd like to answer this question starting with this verse from the Bible
Hosea 4
6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

2 Corinthians
14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

and follow it with this verse:
Isaiah 5:20
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

In this day and age, we are taught that which is evil is really good. For example, we are taught that living a promiscuous lifestyle is desirable, but how often are stds, pregnancies and the consequences of single parenthood households ignored? For women, Kim Kardashian, Marilyn Monroe and other sex dolls have become role models. For men, we are taught to idolize the criminal, such as the latest rapper or even fantasy gangsters like tony montana. We have blurred the lines so much that people no longer have a standard for good and evil. They've effectively accepted moral relativity. Once we have moral relativity, it then becomes very easy to switch good for evil and evil for good because people are now unable to recognize which is which.

I can tell that this 'hidden hand' guy is new age because I used to be into the whole new age thing myself. I thank God for bringing me out of it. It is essentially rebranding luciferianism and occult practices in a modern package. One of the keys of 'new-age' is 'energy work.' People do not recognize the occult root of many of these practices due to the clever repackaging of them and just a lack of knowledge being spread on the such.

Here is Manley P. Hall, one of the most prominent esotericists, describing 'manipulation of energy.'
The Energies of Lucifer are in the Masons' hand ! Hall states:

When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy.

This site goes very in depth in breaking down "new-age"

Concepts Underlying the New Age Cultural Shift

The fact that these prominent new-agers/ high level free masons openly state they are luciferians should bring one to question their intentions.

Here is Manley P. Hall, who admitted his Luciferian leanings in the previous quote, talking about ecleciticism
The TRUE MASON worships at every altar ! Another statement from Hall.

The true Mason is not creed-bound. He realizes with the divine illumination of his lodge that as a Mason his religion must be universal: Christ, Buddha or Mohammed, the name means little, for he recognizes only the light and not the bearer. He worships at every shrine, bows before every altar, whether in temple, mosque or cathedral, realizing with his truer understanding the oneness of all spiritual truth.

No true Mason can be narrow, for his Lodge is the divine expression of all broadness.

Now, let us revisit the Bible quote posted above:
2 Corinthians
14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Their goal is to bring forward their 'new-age', aka the age of aquarius. They are here to introduce this new world order and to crown this new-age messiah (antichrist) while they are at it. Benjamin Creme refers to him as Maitreya.



What Benjamin Creme and his ilk are attempting to do is to blur the lines and to create a 'universal god' that will be accepted. This coming messiah is supposed to be Jesus to the Christians, Buddha to the Buddhists, etc. This fits into the 'eclecticism' element of the new age religion, which is a blending of all of the religions.

Read more on Creme here:
Benjamin Creme, Maitreya, The Ascended Masters and Lucifer

Here is what Benjamin Creme and his share international organization says of the UN:


Does this not sound like a one-world government?

One of the essential ways this 'new messiah' will be introduced is via Project Blue Beam



This so called 'negative energy harvest' sounds to me like conditioning people to accept an upcoming apocalyptic, population reduction scheme, which is essentially a large-scale ritual sacrifice towards their master which is Lucifer. The purpose of this upcoming chaos is a 'reordering' of society in which the antichrist is the head, hence the term 'new world order.' A motto of the high level masons. is 'order from chaos', or in other words, reshaping society from chaotic events that they create. Once we have this grand apocalypse, society will be reordered in the fashion of this antichrist kingdom and you will be required to get chipped or be unable to buy and sell.

ayo, like negative stated earlier, i appreciate the counter u just provided, i've gotten into alot of this new age stuff 4 like the past 2yrs. u just gave me a much needed different POV on things. if u dont mind how do u feel about occult practices such as enochian(luciferian) magick, or even chaos magick 4 that matter, believe it or not i've seen some shyt b4 regarding these 2 :mjpls:, but entities banking on the fact that occultism would be another way 2 subdue the populace is :ooh:, moving forward i would think both occultism & technology would play a larger role in the here after towards ascension(or doom depending on who u ask).
 

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The following post is a work in progress, so bear with me as I attempt to explain some of the things going on.

I've looked at the whole power structure behind it all, and the elites are all essentially esotericists of different manners. Kabbalists, who are the financiers, those who practice witchcraft, etc. Just look at Bohemian grove where all those rich men go and say chants to this large statue of an owl. If you look behind the music and fashion, you will see much of these esoteric symbols as well, such as people wearing baphomet clothing/rings and pentagrams.

This goes back to the garden of eden to a concept of luciferian deception. Lucifer promises mankind that he can be as God through some form of hidden (mysterious) knowledge. The snake told eve, if you eat of the fruit of this tree, you will be as God, knowing the difference between good and evil. Now, we have this same concept still going in this day and age. This is what 'occult'... The seeking of hidden/mysterious knowledge in order to gain 'supernatural' powers-- or in other words power outside of the bounds God intended for us.

We can even see this pursuit in the seemingly secular world with the transhumanism movement. They are seeking certain knowledge so they can be as God, thinking they will have eternal life. This concept is validated in their attempts to upload human consciousness to a computer in their attempts to merge man and machine. On the other hand, these esotericists have been promised great power if they pursue this hidden knowledge.

Consider the story of when Satan met Jesus in the desert after Jesus got done fasting and said if you bow down and worship me and I will give you the kingdoms of the Earth. Jesus refused obviously, but so many others are offered this same deal and do not refuse. Why do you think Dave Chappelle left and turned that 50 million down? He didn't want to sell his soul for riches. In order to get to a certain level of success in industries such as the music industry and hollywood, you have to make a pact. This is why in a lot of the 90s rap songs, you may hear about people 'selling their soul for material riches' or telling you not to sell your soul. This is from the Warren G and Nate Dogg song - Havin' Thangs

[Nate Dogg]
They should know now
(We havin' thangs, havin' thangs)
Don't sell your soul now
(To have things, have things)
Do what you feel now
(If you want things, want things)
 

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kevm3 said:
In regards to the point about 666 being everywhere, it is true. We've fallen so far that they even have a show playing on television called 666 Park Avenue, and no one bats an eye.

Spooky!
 

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Freemasonry is the parent of many secret societies and organizations around the globe. It's basically a bent version of the Mystery religion started in ancient Babylon. They take oath to an ancient Black king by the name of Nimrod/Ninus whom they credit as being the first Mason. Nimrod was the true father of civilization as we know it and was the only man who created the "perfect society" in world history. He's demonized by Jews and Christians because the people started to worship him as a god instead of the actual God and built the Tower of Babel in an act of "being like the most High" (and likely because he was Black).

The most famous society to be birthed under the Freemasonry is the Illuminati which today could just be equated to Freemasons in general. It's great for networking, but understand that they are pure evil and responsible for much of the world's ills at the higher level. Every day Masons can be pretty cool though.
 
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