Good thing I'm not trying to get to Manhattan in a car. Take the train.
Congestion pricing is passed in NYC? (23 dollar toll to drive into Midtown and Lower Manhattan)
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DaStangMan
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So far seems like traffic is reportedly better I’m curious how long that will last.
there was none of it this week all over the city not just Manhattan - everywhere where traffic is usually heavy was light this week - its the first month of the year - its ALWAYS light traffic right after the holiday - shyt doesnt really kick in until the 3rd or last week of the month.It’s usually bumper to bumper traffic going towards Manhattan via Lincoln/holland tunnels and there was none of that this week, smooth sailing for both morning and evening commutes. It’s very early still, and people are still on holiday vacation or working from home this week. Plus it was hella brick outside this week, but so far so good.
This article will give you a little more insight
Bus times to NY improve, traffic at tunnels drops as congestion pricing kicks in
One NJ bus company owner said the first week made it seem like \www.northjersey.com
the only somewhat busy days were Wednesday and Thursday - but friday traffic was super light - this weeks are light because its cold and a lot of people are on WFH
So they want more people to take public transportation?
shyt happens. I have been stuck on trains for various times over 20 plus years and will still take trains. This is not some thing that occurs daily and is much preferable than a massive amount of cars with only one occupant causing traffic.
So they want more people to take public transportation?
MTA doesn’t give a f*ck about the people. They knew they were going to implement congestion pricing, but did not plan extra service.
Not to mention, all this talk about relieving congestion is bullsh*t because damn near every avenue has a bus lane, and extended bike lanes. So cars only a like 2 lanes to move.
I thought I read last year they wanted to spend the congestion pricing money on brand new projects. Instead of spending money to maintain and fix the crap that's already broke. This is like the Federal Government where money goes into a bottomless pit.
Ironman
#Knickstape
That don't improve anything
So they want more people to take public transportation?
Highways and streets get shut down causing traffic too.
More choices is always a good thing.
So they want more people to take public transportation?
That happens in Chinatown every day on the lead up on the Holland Tunnel
But the massive amount of cars are Uber and FHV not single occupant commuters
That shyt you can see if you just stand by a bridge or tunnel esp on the east side of Manhattan there is very little traffic thats caused throughout the day- ppl who commute by car park thier car once they are where they need to be - they aren't cruising the streets for 8 hrs competing for people to hail them for rides - 2009 or 2010 when the Uber and FHV protested by going on strike for a day the streets were EMPTY
IN fact just as empty as you see the streets are now becuase there's none of the office workers or people in the city ( like tourists) to take FHVs so the traffic is nothing like it would be normally
And here is the thing- its a indication of the failure of our press and politicians on just how much of a grift this toll is
When it was first announced an important part of the toll program is that it had to make a billion dollars in order for it to exist by law - the rate was set at $23 - that shyt got bogged down and they cane up with a new rate of $15 - Then Hochul said she was stopping the program becuase economically the region and citizens just couldn't handle the additional expense ( really it was because the Dems saw that they were in danger of losing ) so she stops it- the Dems lose anyway a d miraculously 2 weeks later and 4 months after she stops it she says its gonna go ahead AND the new cost will be $ 9
Now here's the thing- the program HAS TO BY LAW make a Billion in tolls for them to have th programm but if the lowest price they said they could charge to get that billion was $23 how are they gonna get that billion at $9???
Noone has said what would happen if the program doesn't make the money or what would happen if it doesn't reduce traffic
What it does prove is that this was nothing more than a revenue stream to.plug the MTA hole which is fukked up becuase the MTA has shown no ability or actions to show they will reign in the financial mismanagement they have exhibited for the last 10 years or more and to try to maintain the equipment they have thats falling apart .WITH NO NEW EXPANSION in service which was what was promised with this Congestion Toll
feelosofer
#ninergang
Thank you. All this is is a way to milk NY and especially NJ for more money. This is not going the way people think it will.
Canada Goose
Pooping on your head :umad:
Article about the poor working conditions at the 1 and 3 line fleets maintenance shops.
gothamist.com
The MTA usually replaces subway cars every 40 years and 1 and 3 line cars debuted in the 80s and they are around that age. They are breaking down more often and the maintenance guys are struggling to find parts.
The article is a good read and gives some insight as to how the TA maintains some of its trains
'A lot more breakdowns': NYC's oldest subway cars are fixed in crumbling repair shops
MTA officials say they need to renovate or replace century-old subway repair shops before they can replace vintage train cars.
gothamist.com
The MTA usually replaces subway cars every 40 years and 1 and 3 line cars debuted in the 80s and they are around that age. They are breaking down more often and the maintenance guys are struggling to find parts.
The article is a good read and gives some insight as to how the TA maintains some of its trains
