Think everyone who disagrees with you is a liberal, brehs.Also I love when liberals use the word vagueOver 90% of their positions center on vague, subjective terms like "fair", "right", "livable", "just", or "equality".
Come look at this dudes medical bills and laugh
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Despite all this fukking hoopla over this bill, this man likely walked into an ED with a problem and had his problem addressed that evening and is now doing fine. In a liberal utopia, the hospital should simply give it to this person "free" because "its the right thing to do". Unfortunately reality has a funny way of fukking up liberal fantasy.
Why don't you fukkers petition hollywood to pay for it? It seems they are the only people who you guys don't mind if they are making millions of dollars off the backs of poor people.
Why don't you fukkers petition hollywood to pay for it? It seems they are the only people who you guys don't mind if they are making millions of dollars off the backs of poor people.
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Nonsense. So you don't have access to high quality care this very minute? You couldn't walk into a neighborhood ED RIGHT NOW if you were to fall ill and receive top notch care from licensed professionals? No it wouldn't be free, but its definitely availible. In many countries, that would be an impossibility.
Stop repeating liberal talking points. You look silly breh.
In liberal utopia he would have died waiting in the ER
I do too
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NOPE.
Tell him not to pay shyt for 2 years, but instead put 50 bucks a month into an account. ($1200). After the two years tel him to call the hospital and tell them he'll pay it off TODAY if they will take 1200. They will. Make sure he has credit cards first...cause his credit will take a hit, BUT it'll be easier to rebuild than having a piss poor cash flow because of 11k in worth of debt.
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about 9 years ago i was between jobs and got in a car accident, ended up with two broken ribs and a broken tailbone. 80k in bills. Settled all that shyt myself for 8k cash. Hospitals bump up prices when they know insurance will cover. When they know a person is paying out of pocket they tend to take what they can get.
What do you think they will do when they know Govt. will cover?
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Depends.What do you think they will do when they know Govt. will cover?
If the goverment doesn't do anything to check some of those costs, i.e. They send a bill for a $50 box of kleenex teh government better deny that claim. IF THEY DON'T...
Well prices will stay as they are right now.
The gov needs to check pricing, they can do that via laws and such. I don't know what WILL happen i know what's happening right now isn't working and prices will continue to balloon.
Keep in mind the argument from the medical industry as to why medicine is expensive has been because of the failed rates at hospitals and to cover research costs. Removing 50% of the extreme cost of doing business should have an effect. If it does not we can all finally agree that hospitals no longer adhere to the Hippocratic oath and are vile, necessary, evils.
With much of the worlds research and development done here in the states, do you think its fair to compare(side by side) our system to those of other nations that benefit from Americas r&d at zero cost?
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We have patents to protect rights and such. I wouldn't be averse to extending some of the 50 years patents to 80 years to help companies better recoup some of those costs.
Think about the costs though. Medicine is huge, but not the bulk of costs. Look at this kids bill for instance. The "medicine" he received was but a small portion and the hospital isn't in bed with the R&D companies in terms of profit sharing. I expect pharma companies on teh cutting edge will continue to ask top dollar and people will pay top dollar. The difference should be this...
Today we pay $1000 to a doctor to hand us an $80 in a seat that cost $200 to sit in.
Tomorrow we should pay less to the doctor to hand us an $80 pill and sit in a seat that cost a fraction of $200.
The "service" is what we pay out the ass for in most cases, not the meds.
Let me ask you something...
With so much of the R&D going on here in America do you think it's right for American citizens to pay MORE vs other countries...for the same service?
I don't believe the service to be "the same", but I agree medical cost here in the states are absurd.
Moreover I dont believe we should use other countries as a metric for much of anything concerning our nation
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I agree to a degree. In fact it's my main response when people bring up that tired ass argument in regards to immigration...."well Mexico has even worse policies than we do they should feel lucky..."I don't believe the service to be "the same", but I agree medical cost here in the states are absurd.
Moreover I dont believe we should use other countries as a metric for much of anything concerning our nation
The degree is that we're not dealing with metaphysical concepts, we know what costs are and we can do equivalent conversions based on currency to determine how much medicine A costs in the USA vs Medicine A in [Insert COuntry Here].