Coli centrists, what's so great about centrism: come in here and sell us on your political leaning

[2Quik4UHoes]

elaborate

That lying bytch supports regime change in Ethiopia and she promotes fake genocides in the name of ethnofascists, wanted the Somali President out in favor of a more U.S. leaning puppet, her shyt as far as I’m concerned is highly performative. I’ll give you Cori Bush or AOC but Ilham is fake as shyt I can’t wait til they vote her out.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

shyt isn't that simple locally.

You can want UBI, but you're just 1 rep in Congress or 1 vote in your Commission. Gonna have to compromise.

You can want to cut the defense budget, but you don't want to lose the jobs in your district or city. Gonna have to compromise.

You can be a centrist and a populist. Like I said, that's the beauty of it. We know what the extremes of each party want. Anything other than that is in the middle.

Look, while y’all champion those centrist bullshyt talking points I’m gonna just keep watching the cesspool of a nation unravel or fully transform into a fascist state in order to preserve itself. There’s no real will to improve things. Winning an election is improvement enough….

 

[Jalether]

Gun reform, stimulus checks, you quoted me mentioning Obamacare, infrastructure bill, etc.

And all of those major bills have a bunch of smaller laws that are beneficial to green energy and minorities.

Let me rephrase that. What meaningful shyt have centrists gotten done

13th ammendment,New deal,civil rights, those are meaningful shyt

In the last 30 years, centrists can only point to obama care (which was extremely watered down bill similar to the one mitt romney proposed) and infrastructure (another
watered down bill) as the only meaningful (arguable) bill they passed. That's a pitiful record.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Let me rephrase that. What meaningful shyt have centrists gotten done

13th ammendment,New deal,civil rights, those are meaningful shyt

In the last 30 years, centrists can only point to obama care (which was extremely watered down bill similar to the one mitt romney proposed) and infrastructure (another
watered down bill) as the only meaningful (arguable) bill they passed. That's a pitiful record.

They can be the deciding vote on a lot of things because they can side with whoever they want lol. I'd like to see examples of legislation they've sponsored though.

 

[OfTheCross]

Look, while y’all champion those centrist bullshyt talking points I’m gonna just keep watching the cesspool of a nation unravel or fully transform into a fascist state in order to preserve itself. There’s no real will to improve things. Winning an election is improvement enough….

Winning an election is step 1

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

What’s so great about any part of the spectrum? Don’t people just align to the area that promotes the policies/approach/stance they believe in? Why does it have to be defended as great as opposed to “well that’s just what I think the best policy solution is”?

 

[OfTheCross]

Let me rephrase that. What meaningful shyt have centrists gotten done

13th ammendment,New deal,civil rights, those are meaningful shyt

In the last 30 years, centrists can only point to obama care (which was extremely watered down bill similar to the one mitt romney proposed) and infrastructure (another
watered down bill) as the only meaningful (arguable) bill they passed. That's a pitiful record.

You're moving goalposts now.

Ultimately, we got what we could. You're saying that those bills were watered down, but that's because Democrats didn't win enough seats in enough places nationally.

Like I've said, there's a loyal opposition and compromise is needed to get things through Congress.

Give me 1 example of something you want Democrats in Congress to do that they haven't?

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

If 48 out of 50 Democrats want change, I don't blame the entire party.

And since the 48 can't force through whatever they want, they have to be pragmatic and compromise.

So, it's not so much a gradualist approach. It's moreso, that's all we can get.

This is the reality of the situation.

Agreed, but it's not a coincidence that we've reached this point. It's easy to just say "the only reason centrism isn't working right now is because Manchin is blocking everything", but there's decades of 'New Democrat' ideology that lead to the position we're in.

Saying "that's all we can get" is really just the attitude I was referring to in my previous post.

To me it seems more like people give up on what they believe in out of fear of asking for 'too much' and risking Republicans taking power, but the line of what is 'too much' was dictated by the media and establishment.

 

[Jalether]

What’s so great about any part of the spectrum? Don’t people just align to the area that promotes the policies/approach/stance they believe in? Why does it have to be defended as great as opposed to “well that’s just what I think the best policy solution is”?

what do centrist believe in. That's the point of this thread and the question still hasn't been answered

What do republicans/conservatives believe in

Racism/white supremacy
Guns
Low taxes
Christianity (for the religious faction)
anti federal gov't
strong borders/anti immigration
etc


what do progressives believe in

Racial Equality
criminal justice reform
Improving the standard of living for everyone (republicans and centrist call it socialism though)
pro unions
Anti-wars and anti imperialism
pro raising taxes on the richest and wealthy in society
etc


No what do centrists actually stand for. And please save the "centrist are more electable" answers, I'm talking policy here

 

[OfTheCross]

Agreed, but it's not a coincidence that we've reached this point. It's easy to just say "the only reason centrism isn't working right now is because Manchin is blocking everything", but there's decades of 'New Democrat' ideology that lead to the position we're in.

Saying "that's all we can get" is really just the attitude I was referring to in my previous post.

In reality, though, the line of what is "too much" is dictated by the opposition and politicians.

Manchin has his line. As do Republicans, and more liberal Democrats of things they will or won't support.

 

[OfTheCross]

what do centrist believe in. That's the point of this thread and the question still hasn't been answered

What do republicans/conservatives believe in

Racism/white supremacy
Guns
Low taxes
Christianity (for the religious faction)
anti federal gov't
strong borders/anti immigration
etc


what do progressives believe in

Racial Equality
criminal justice reform
Improving the standard of living for everyone (republicans and centrist call it socialism though)
pro unions
Anti-wars and anti imperialism
pro raising taxes on the richest and wealthy in society
etc


No what do centrists actually stand for. And please save the "centrist are more electable" answers, I'm talking policy here

A centrist can be for:

Guns
Low taxes
Christianity
anti federal gov't
strong borders/anti immigration
criminal justice reform
Improving the standard of living for everyone
pro unions
Anti-wars and anti imperialism
pro raising taxes on the richest and wealthy in society


That's the beauty of it.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Winning an election is step 1

If this is our only source of recourse then we in trouble. Might be time to go under the hood and fix the car. Then again, no one thinks anything is wrong with this pompous jaloppy…

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

A centrist can be for:

Guns
Low taxes
Christianity
anti federal gov't
strong borders/anti immigration
criminal justice reform
Improving the standard of living for everyone
pro unions
Anti-wars and anti imperialism
pro raising taxes on the richest and wealthy in society


That's the beauty of it.

Lol. Some of your finest work.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

what do centrist believe in. That's the point of this thread and the question still hasn't been answered

What do republicans/conservatives believe in

Racism/white supremacy
Guns
Low taxes
Christianity (for the religious faction)
anti federal gov't
strong borders/anti immigration
etc


what do progressives believe in

Racial Equality
criminal justice reform
Improving the standard of living for everyone (republicans and centrist call it socialism though)
pro unions
Anti-wars and anti imperialism
pro raising taxes on the richest and wealthy in society
etc


No what do centrists actually stand for. And please save the "centrist are more electable" answers, I'm talking policy here

A centrist may feel like we should make drugs cheaper while not wanting a nationalized medical system, they may feel like let’s legalize weed to get rid of superfluous sentencing but property crimes still need to be prosecuted, they may seek to regulate an industry but not highly tax it, they’re not into providing social benefits to illegal immigrants, etc etc. the middle of the road is a belief system, maybe it doesn’t come across as impassioned as someone fully on the right or left, but they see a path down the middle.

 

[OfTheCross]

If this is our only source of recourse then we in trouble. Might be time to go under the hood and fix the car. Then again, no one thinks anything is wrong with this pompous jaloppy…

What other recourse do you suggest besides winning elections and getting shyt done?