Coli brehs assured me that the mainstream media are left leaning then how do you explain the incessant anti Biden attack since the debate and . . .

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So the mainstream left wing media (according to bothsides nikkas) have shifted their focus from wall to wall negative biden coverage
to wall to wall positive trump coverage but yeah, there's no right wing bias, just pure coincidence I'm sure:francis:
 
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Follow the money :sas2:

Biden is getting bowling circuit ratings.... Trump was getting NFL ratings on cable... as a comparison

Instability in this country means big ratings for the news corporations and their shareholders

Trump doesn't even need to interview with the MSM.... he's got it like that
 

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News outlets were leaked insider material from the Trump campaign. They chose not to print it​


By DAVID BAUDER

Updated 9:14 AM EDT, August 13, 2024

At least three news outlets were leaked confidential material from inside the Donald Trump campaign, including its report vetting JD Vance as a vice presidential candidate. So far, each has refused to reveal any details about what they received.

Instead, Politico, The New York Times and The Washington Post have written about a potential hack of the campaign and described what they had in broad terms.

Their decisions stand in marked contrast to the 2016 presidential campaign, when a Russian hack exposed emails to and from Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager, John Podesta. The website Wikileaks published a trove of these embarrassing missives, and mainstream news organizations covered them avidly.

Politico wrote over the weekend about receiving emails starting July 22 from a person identified as “Robert” that included a 271-page campaign document about Vance and a partial vetting report on Sen. Marco Rubio, who was also considered as a potential vice president. Both Politico and the Post said that two people had independently confirmed that the documents were authentic.

“Like many such vetting documents,” The Times wrote of the Vance report, “they contained past statements with the potential to be embarrassing or damaging, such as Mr. Vance’s remarks casting aspersions on Mr. Trump.”

Whodunit?​


What’s unclear is who provided the material. Politico said it did not know who “Robert” was and that when it spoke to the supposed leaker, he said, “I suggest you don’t be curious about where I got them from.”

The Trump campaign said it had been hacked and that Iranians were behind it. While the campaign provided no evidence for the claim, it came a day after a Microsoft report detailed an effort by an Iranian military intelligence unit to compromise the email account of a former senior advisor to a presidential campaign. The report did not specify which campaign.

Steven Cheung, a spokesperson for Trump’s campaign, said over the weekend that “any media or news outlet reprinting documents or internal communications are doing the bidding of America’s enemies.”

The FBI released a brief statement Monday that read: “We can confirm the FBI is investigating this matter.”

The Times said it would not discuss why it had decided not to print details of the internal communications. A spokesperson for the Post said: “As with any information we receive, we take into account the authenticity of the materials, any motives of the source and assess the public interest in making decisions about what, if anything, to publish.”

Brad Dayspring, a spokesperson for Politico, said editors there judged that “the questions surrounding the origins of the documents and how they came to our attention were more newsworthy than the material that was in those documents.”

Indeed, it didn’t take long after Vance was announced as Trump’s running mate for various news organizations to dig up unflattering statements that the Ohio senator had made about him.


A lesson from 2016?​


It’s also easy to recall how, in 2016, candidate Trump and his team encouraged coverage of documents on the Clinton campaign that Wikileaks had acquired from hackers. It was widespread: A BBC story promised “18 revelations from Wikileaks’ hacked Clinton emails” and Vox even wrote about Podesta’s advice for making superb risotto.

Brian Fallon, then a Clinton campaign spokesperson, noted at the time how striking it was that concern about Russian hacking quickly gave way to fascination over what was revealed. “Just like Russia wanted,” he said.

Unlike this year, the Wikileaks material was dumped into the public domain, increasing the pressure on news organizations to publish. That led to some bad decisions: In some cases, outlets misrepresented some of the material to be more damaging to Clinton than it actually was, said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a University of Pennsylvania communications professor who wrote “Cyberwar,” a book about the 2016 hacking.

This year, Jamieson said she believed news organizations made the right decision not to publish details of the Trump campaign material because they can’t be sure of the source.

“How do you know that you’re not being manipulated by the Trump campaign?” Jamieson said. She’s conservative about publishing decisions “because we’re in the misinformation age,” she said.

Thomas Rid, director of the Alperovitch Institute for Cybersecurity Studies at Johns Hopkins, also believes that the news organizations have made the right decision, but for different reasons. He said it appeared that an effort by a foreign agent to influence the 2024 presidential campaign was more newsworthy than the leaked material itself.

But one prominent journalist, Jesse Eisinger, senior reporter and editor at ProPublica, suggested the outlets could have told more than they did. While it’s true that past Vance statements about Trump are easily found publicly, the vetting document could have indicated which statements most concerned the campaign, or revealed things the journalists didn’t know.

Once it is established that the material is accurate, newsworthiness is a more important consideration than the source, he said.

“I don’t think they handled it properly,” Eisinger said. “I think they overlearned the lesson of 2016.”
 

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1/12
What "press"? The broken and vindictive Times? The newly Murdochian Post? Hedge-fund newspaper husks? Rudderless CNN or NPR? Murdoch's fascist media? No. She can choose many ways to communicate her stands with others outside the old press and with the public directly. The old press can and should be bypassed.
Kamala Harris must speak to the press
Margaret Sullivan
Kamala Harris must speak to the press | Margaret Sullivan

2/12
Look at the press' behavior. When given a chance to ask questions, they sound like they're in a lockerroom, seeking quotes, not policy. This does nothing to inform the electorate. I know the argument about testing a candidate: but the press as currently configured aims for game & gotcha.

3/12
Job 1 is to inform the electorate about policy & stakes. That is up to the candidate to communicate and voters to judge. The press is unnecessary in that process. It can still analyze all it wants. But its questions will do nothing more to inform....

4/12
If Harris preempts interviews with the hostile press--which includes not just Fox but now The Times & Post--and goes for an interview on MSNBC she'll be accused of seeking softballs. (Not that Trump didn't just get a BJ from Elon Musk...)....

5/12
The next question is one of character. There we would learn more from seeing Harris and Walz sit down with Howard Stern (his interview with Biden was stellar and revealing) or late-night hosts (Colbert, not for God's sake Fallon) or podcasters....

6/12
What I most want to see Harris & Walz do is bypass old, white mass media (run by people who look like me) and enter into conversations--scarce time allowing--with Black & Latino press, podcasters, community press, thereby validating their role over the priviledged & powerful incumbents in political discourse....

7/12
I'll say this again: The press needs Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris doesn't need the press. Their motive in whining for what they take as their birthright (hello, A.G.) is to salve their editorial egos and earn them attention (and money). They have not earned this role; they have forfeited the privilege by their behavior.

8/12
As I said elswhere in a thread, I agree with @sulliview almost always. But here, not. It is time that we as media critics face head on how broken the press is. It does not perform a constructive and productive role. To the contrary, it has been damaging to democracy. Facing the press is not a proper test. The press fails its tests.

9/12
It is also critical that we as journalism educators enable our students to break free of the failures of incubment, white, mass media and build a different future for journalism, paying reparations for the sins of media past & present, listening--truly listening--to the public they serve.

10/12
Just to make sure folks reading this thread see it, here is @Sulliview sharing my disagreement with her column. This is why she is the best. Gawd I wish she were still the public editor at The Times (though I'm sure she doesn't).

11/12
Policy? She has no policy.

12/12
It does feel like nat'l political press are sports-talk yakkers mainly concerned with filling the void that is cable t.v. Imagine Watergate today: "Rumors swirl around Nixon but some say Dems lack juice in this game. Both sides spoiling for a fight tho!"


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1/11
CNN and the rest of the mainstream media is currently tearing Kamala Harris‘ policy plans that she just released to shreds.

Meanwhile, Trump has released nothing and they let him get away with it

2/11
Thing I hate is MSM wants Trump back in office because it’s a revenue stream for them.

MSM is disregarding the policies of VP Harris, that would undoubtedly help people, even those who don’t care for her.

There is no duty or obligation anymore regarding the well being of the public from these trash organizations.

3/11
THIS IS WHY SHE SHOULDNT SPEAK TO THEM AT ALL

4/11
Reason 5,582,301 not to watch MSM

5/11
Why does it feel like with the way the race has been covered by them, that CNN wants Trump to win?

6/11
Her plans are very ambitious. CNN doesn’t like people with plans. They just want soundbites from complete idiots.

7/11
CNN is garbage

8/11
Not on MSNBC.

9/11
Bc people don’t actually want policy, they just want to be able to say “what’s her policy” for the 100th time and talk for 8hrs about how she needs to speak more

10/11
Unless and until CNN offers an apology and does a complete 180 I will only be getting my news from reliable sources and my tv will never see them again.

11/11
More reasons not to give the press any interviews right now. 🤷‍♀️


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1/5
This WaPo factcheck says flatly there is "no evidence that Trump sent" "love letters to dictators," and that "we do not know what Trump wrote to Kim."

Bob Woodward accessed the 27 Trump-Kim letters for his 2020 book; CNN pubbed full transcripts of two. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/transcripts-kim-jong-un-letters-trump?cid=ios_app

2/5
Robert L. Carlin also got access to the letters and reported on their contents for Foreign Policy in 2021. The Real Lessons of the Trump-Kim Love Letters

3/5
The 27 letters were released by South Korean journalists org in 2022, as Stars and Stripes reported.
‘Beautiful letters’ reveal Trump-Kim friendship that sidelined South Korea’s president

4/5
Trump's "love letters" comment was about Kim's letters to Trump, and much of the discourse (including the letters CNN pubbed from Woodward) has been about the Kim->Trump.

But it is simply not true that "we do not know what Trump wrote to Kim."

5/5
I appreciate the Post correcting the record on this.


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1/5
This WaPo factcheck says flatly there is "no evidence that Trump sent" "love letters to dictators," and that "we do not know what Trump wrote to Kim."

Bob Woodward accessed the 27 Trump-Kim letters for his 2020 book; CNN pubbed full transcripts of two. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/transcripts-kim-jong-un-letters-trump?cid=ios_app

2/5
Robert L. Carlin also got access to the letters and reported on their contents for Foreign Policy in 2021. The Real Lessons of the Trump-Kim Love Letters

3/5
The 27 letters were released by South Korean journalists org in 2022, as Stars and Stripes reported.
‘Beautiful letters’ reveal Trump-Kim friendship that sidelined South Korea’s president

4/5
Trump's "love letters" comment was about Kim's letters to Trump, and much of the discourse (including the letters CNN pubbed from Woodward) has been about the Kim->Trump.

But it is simply not true that "we do not know what Trump wrote to Kim."

5/5
I appreciate the Post correcting the record on this.


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Thanks for updating the thread. The usual suspects have long fled it, one of them even one starred it. I wonder why
 
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