Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

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House Dems are roughly a dozen votes shy of a majority vote on impeachment.

i mean, it's good cuz they're getting closer. but at the same time, it's fukking sad. this cowardly talk shyt but don't be about it stuff from the democrats just drives me nuts. it makes no fukking sense to me.
 
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Until anyone can give a politically saavy reason for why moving forward with impeachment proceedings is a bad idea, I don't wanna hear shyt about voting him out as an alternative to impeaching him. Putting his shyt front and center on national TV day in and out HELPS the efforts of a Dem challenger winning back the presidency, not the other way around.

And no, not wanting to make Republicans upset because you're afraid they might not like it and yell at you is not what I'd classify as a politically saavy approach. :hamster:
 

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Until anyone can give a politically saavy reason for why moving forward with impeachment proceedings is a bad idea, I don't wanna hear shyt about voting him out as an alternative to impeaching him. Putting his shyt front and center on national TV day in and out HELPS the efforts of a Dem challenger winning back the presidency, not the other way around.

And no, not wanting to make Republicans upset because you're afraid they might not like it and yell at you is not what I'd classify as a politically saavy approach. :hamster:
That’s what I’m saying. His base is voting for him regardless. And the “moderates” or “independents” if they don’t like it/ vote for him after having his crimes put on front street they were never voting to get him out of office anyway.

You have to set the precedent so something like this abomination can never happen again. And you have to punish all those that allowed it to happen.
 

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I'm honestly not enthused. Can Democrats make a coherent case for impeachment? Is he gonna get voted out or not?

Again, I'd like to have him impeached. None of the previous 44 Presidents would have been able to get away with what Trump has gotten away and not be impeached. For the sake of the Presidency and most importantly the country, Trump needs to be impeached.

But I'm with Pelosi at this point. Vote Trump out of office and let the legal system deal with him when he's out.

Yup! Cuz NO republican is gonnna vote with Dems, Mitch already said he aint bringing it to trial. What’s da point of impeachment if he not gettin outta here? Symbolic impeachment would be weak as hell.
 
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