Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

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Could easily be months, as this sentencing is only for two counts of conspiracy to commit bank fraud or something.

Edit: Initial reports from USA Today state that the prosecutors are asking for 20-25 years, they won't get it,but they could get 12-15.
Explain why they won’t get it when you take into account he lied to the SC and his actions defrauded the government and worked with a foreign adversary to steal the election? :ufdup:
 

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The SC team didn't offer an exact recommendation, which is maybe interesting, instead they went with the PSR findings, and didn't offer any leniency, which is always the deal when someone cooperates, as Manafort violated, they let him get burned with no relief.

I just don't see a judge giving that severe a sentence, in a white collar case, albeit one with way more serious allegations, about our democracy and national security. I don't see the judge giving 20 or 25, but I can see 15.
 

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The SC team didn't offer an exact recommendation, which is maybe interesting, instead they went with the PSR findings, and didn't offer any leniency, which is always the deal when someone cooperates, as Manafort violated, they let him get burned with no relief.

I just don't see a judge giving that severe a sentence, in a white collar case, albeit one with way more serious allegations, about our democracy and national security. I don't see the judge giving 20 or 25, but I can see 15.

Manny was the point man and master mind when he took over the campaign... he ain’t getting 15 years.. dude was scamming for decades only to serve 15? Nah fam 20 minimum
 

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So, this is the sentencing for his conviction on the bank fraud and money laundering from August 2018, in front of that awful judge, T.S Eliott, who will also sentence him. I got some of these charges and sentencing's confused. This judge won't be taking into account any of the debacle around his cooperation/lack thereof in the D.C district case, this is an entirely separate proceeding. Often, these sentences run concurrently, as a related note. Again, this judge is the one who routinely berated prosectors, he won't give 25 years or even 20, but it will be in the 7-15 range, at least that is my best guess.
 

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So, this is the sentencing for his conviction on the bank fraud and money laundering from August 2018, in front of that awful judge, T.S Eliott, who will also sentence him. I got some of these charges and sentencing's confused. This judge won't be taking into account any of the debacle around his cooperation/lack thereof in the D.C district case, this is an entirely separate proceeding. Often, these sentences run concurrently, as a related note. Again, this judge is the one who routinely berated prosectors, he won't give 25 years or even 20, but it will be in the 7-15 range, at least that is my best guess.
Isn't that also the same judge who wanted to know if treason was on the table?
 

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Thanks, got it mixed up.

Either way, anything over 15 years and he dies in prison. On to the next one.

Flynn's judge is all of us. He looked at the evidence and said, my nicca this is treason. Mueller, wtf, charge this nicca with treason!!!! You really wanna plead guilty right now my nicca or you going to put some more work in?

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I didn't know the leadership enhancements, that is a serious factor. They really tore into his throat on that. I was thinking a few minutes the sheer magnitude of legal trouble Manafort found himself, I hope to never see any part of that, but still his, is just like the definition of fukked up in the game.
 
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