Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

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Those motherfukkers were ready to impeach Obama for wearing a tan suit, and Dems are p*ssy footing around shyt like this.

Disgusting.
If they don't charge him, watch the GOP throw it in their face come election time.

" Dems wasted million on a BS investigate"

" Dems all agreed that the BS crime wasn't serious so they didn't attempt to impeach the President"

" Dems wasted millions and didn't even try to impeach, so what crimes, they didn't even bring it to the senate"
 
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Why the fukk do we care about how Trump’s base will react? They’re going to vote for him regardless of what he does so FUKK them

And if you’re an “undecided” and an aggressive Democratic response pushes you to Trump after years of this embarrassing shytshow running the country, then FUKK you too :pacspit:
 

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It's a complicated play, I don't have an answer, there are so many factors, it's near impossible for even top ranking Democrats to call the right move 100%. I would need access to voter data and population info lol
The right move is to have integrity. I don't want to hear about identity politics or how you're going to change the world when you're afraid to stand up to those who have a complete and total disregard for the system and what it stands for.

They dropped the ball under obama, but got away with it because he had integrity to shield their cowardice.
 

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If they don't charge him, watch the GOP throw it in their face come election time.

" Dems wasted million on a BS investigate"

" Dems all agreed that the BS crime wasn't serious so they didn't attempt to impeach the President"

" Dems wasted millions and didn't even try to impeach, so what crimes, they didn't even bring it to the senate"

Right now they are pushing that It’s Hillary and Special counsel that need to be investigated.

Can you imagine what the GOP would be doing given the same set of facts?

I mean look at the mountains they created from the Libya and Email mole hills.
 

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The right move is to have integrity. I don't want to hear about identity politics or how you're going to change the world when you're afraid to stand up to those who have a complete and total disregard for the system and what it stands for.

They dropped the ball under obama, but got away with it because he had integrity to shield their cowardice.

Without a doubt, the right move in terms of integrity is a take no prisoners approach, but in regards to winning 2020? I think it is less clear. And, then you get into a complicated moral and existential, and direly practical conversation, about is it worth losing to do the thing? Is is cowardly or strategic, or both? Does is matter if the Democrats win in 2020?
 

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Without a doubt, the right move in terms of integrity is a take no prisoners approach, but in regards to winning 2020? I think it is less clear. And, then you get into a complicated moral and existential, and direly practical conversation, about is it worth losing to do the thing? Is is cowardly or strategic, or both? Does is matter if the Democrats win in 2020?

Nah, they need to use the republican playbook, just like Hillary Clinton, use everything and anything to attack him. On policy and on legitimacy. Ring the bell on his tax returns, revisit Central Park five, bankruptcies, make documentaries.

If Bernie is the Democratic candidate, there’s nothing to fear from the progressive wing that would poison the well.

I mean he questioned Obama’s citizenship, he ought to get a taste of his own medicine.
 

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Fat hoe didnt tweet this. He's the one that branded himself and continues to act like some tough guy. He won't even admit that Russia did it, hasnt called for an investigation, hasnt order counter measures be created, bytched up in front of the world and admitted him believed Putin over his own intelligence and has called it all a hoax. Now, always the victim, he blames Obama. And some of you hold this dikkhead in high esteem. Fake ass patriots. :pacspit:
 

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I'm interested to see how these numbers change after the report's release and after Mueller's testimony. If Mueller gives compelling testimony I bet these numbers flip and Pelosi reconsiders.

 
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As long as we have him defending himself, and the pressure is kept on him, it will be very hard for him to get re-elected tbh. Sure his base is going to vote for him, but independents don’t want to hear him claim innocence for the next year and a half while they are dealing with kitchen table issues. They don’t want to hear him “dunking” on people, they don’t want to hear him proclaim “no collusion”, they don’t want to hear “fake news”. They want him to keep his “promises”, not hear about “obstructionist Dems”. We need to impeach, we all know it is symbolic, and they will never do it in the senate, but making him and the R senators defend him and themselves, you can’t even buy that kind of campaign ammo. I trust Schiff, I certainly have no love for Stenny fukking Hoyer. I think Adam will make the case to impeachment so clear that whoever is the Dem candidate will have a cheat code built in.
 
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