Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

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The 3 Stooges could have ran a more effective campaign that Trump, yet according to the math, he campaigned at damn near close to perfect precision. The circumstances you think just "lined up", didn't without assistance.
Social Media swayed people which was Russia's plan. I would say the same thing you did couple years ago but I've never been a member of FB and Twitter etc. Being on it now, I definitely believe the propaganda worked.
i dont think we'll ever know for sure. but it seems to me that the circumstances of

-the repub/democrat usually wins after 8 years of the previous president. it's a certainty that the dem will win in 2024, if not 2020
-on top of that, fox news and republicans spent 8 years fostering racial resentment. white america was itching to "get back to normal" after 8 years of obama, and trump was the perfect candidate for them. a racist, ignorant loudmouth who "tells it like it is"
-trump sold himself as an everyman, 'something different', which we all know was bullshyt but he WAS a "non politician" choice. hillary was the exact opposite of that, the definition of establishment. awful choice to run in that climate. people have hated hillary clinton for 30 fukkin years, and i believe she only ran up the popular vote because you have one of two choices and the other was trump. no one actually wanted to vote for her, certainly not people in states like wisconsin that she chose not to campaign in. or maybe russia grounded her planes

as far as im concerned it was the perfect storm of terrible circumstances :yeshrug: russia helped trump, sure. but it didn't decide shyt. trump wins without russian facebook memes
 

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The 3 Stooges could have ran a more effective campaign that Trump, yet according to the math, he campaigned at damn near close to perfect precision. The circumstances you think just "lined up", didn't without assistance.

How do you explain him beating the entire Republican field? A novice first time out?


Dude was in a unique position before the general election and that wasn’t Russia based.
 

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How do you explain him beating the entire Republican field? A novice first time out?


Dude was in a unique position before the general election and that wasn’t Russia based.
I think it was pure entertainment. Let's see what he will say at the next debate.

In the end it was a perfect storm like @the cac mamba believes. Winning by 77k votes, help from Russia, help from his stage presence and demeanor, Hillarys unlikability, lazy people who didn't vote, email investigation.

What happened is what was supposed to happen :francis:

Next year will be absolutely LOCO.
 

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How do you explain him beating the entire Republican field? A novice first time out?


Dude was in a unique position before the general election and that wasn’t Russia based.
Have we already forgotten about Cambridge Analytica and their voter targeting operation?

:francis:
 

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I think it was pure entertainment. Let's see what he will say at the next debate.

In the end it was a perfect storm like @the cac mamba believes. Winning by 77k votes, help from Russia, help from his stage presence and demeanor, Hillarys unlikability, lazy people who didn't vote, email investigation.

What happened is what was supposed to happen :francis:

Next year will be absolutely LOCO.
I’m not saying Russia didn’t help against Hillary but dude was in a unique position because of his opponent that Russia didn’t have to close a 30% gap like he should have had.
 

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Didn’t CA work for Carson and Cruz and only got Trump after he secured the nomination?
Timeline:
From March 16, 2016, to May 3, 2016, only three candidates remained in the race: Trump, Cruz and Kasich. Cruz won most delegates in four Western contests and in Wisconsin, keeping a credible path to denying Trump the nomination on first ballot with 1,237 delegates. However, Trump scored landslide victories in New York and five North-Eastern states in April, before taking every delegate in the Indiana primary of May 3. Without any further chances of forcing a contested convention, Cruz suspended his campaign[7] and Trump was declared the presumptive Republican nominee by Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus on the evening of May 3.[8] Kasich dropped out the next day.[9] After winning

And Trump CA timeline:

March-April

Wylie’s company, Eunoia Technologies, meets with Donald Trump’s campaign operative Corey Lewandowski to discuss microtargeting techniques. 8

And the more aggressive timeline all the way back to 2015.

Other documents from Eunoia, which marketed ad microtargeting services to corporate and political clients, reveal that in the spring of 2015 Wylie’s startup pitched elections-related work to Trump’s eventual campaign manager, Lewandowski. One source, who declined to be named for fear of endangering personal and business relationships confirmed the authenticity of these documents; another person, who had direct knowledge of Eunoia’s meeting with Lewandowski, confirmed the Wylie-led startup’s interest in working for the fledgling Trump campaign.
 

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What point are you trying to make now?
The same one. Trump’s campaign win wasn’t fueled by Russia or CA. It was aided by them. He still built a strong campaign on his ugly message and terrible opponents.

Don’t let his ugly voters off with a “ Russian made us do it” by pushing the CA angle as a catch-all for their votes.
 

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The same one. Trump’s campaign win wasn’t fueled by Russia or CA. It was aided by them. He still built a strong campaign on his ugly message and terrible opponents.

Don’t let his ugly voters off with a “ Russian made us do it” by pushing the CA angle as a catch-all for their votes.
Barry Bonds success wasn't fueled by PEDs, but it certainly helped, was against the rules, and he should not be let off the hook just because he was otherwise hardworking and talented.
 
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