Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

[88m3]

I wonder if they lied on their job interview.

As much fuss that was made about Clinton people at the DNC, these are all Trump orbit folks at the RNC.

The more I read about this and the people involved it seems like there is a criminal conspiracy involving the RNC. Right?

 

[Json]

You are completely wrong on almost every point. I suggest you.brush up on the following:

• What actually happened with the CA data breach regarding Facebook
• Who was one of the creators of CA
• Steve Bannons role with CA and the Trump campaign

P. S. As someone who has been tested by USADA I can tell you unequivocally if I tell my trainer to get me some supplements to help me recover, I take those supplements even though I was assured they weren't illegal, that I would still be punished for taking PEDs if I failed a drug test.

Any how does you taking knowingly or not illegal PEDs(and Bonds lied about knowing) to do with the fact microtargeting isn't illegal in the least? Otherwise Cruz and his campaign would be in trouble, too. Even Obama used it but with users permission. EMPHASIS ON PERMISSION.

Bannon, Lewindowski,Popadopolous(sp) etc are all bad actors, but unless you got Trump on record knowing what those activities were, he isn't going down for CA. Russia/Wikileaks is completely different for a reason.

These are the facts. Being the face of a campaign isn't the same as knowing everything of what happened in it. The same way campaign violations happen in almost every campaign but that doesn't rise to the level of what Trump and his cohorts are doing. Trying to make Trump into some kind of Kingpin of crime is ridiculous.

 

[Json]

The more I read about this and the people involved it seems like there is a criminal conspiracy involving the RNC. Right?

This is where Mueller is going to pull back. There's no way he wants to destroy an entire party in a two-party system. It would be chaos.

 

[Pressure]

Any how does you taking knowingly or not illegal PEDs to do with the fact microtargeting isn't illegal in the least? Otherwise Cruz and his campaign would be in trouble, too. Even Obama used it but with users permission. EMPHASIS ON PERMISSION.

Please don't be dishonest. Again, microtargeting isn't the issue the issue is how the gained the data.

Facebook has said that a Cambridge University lecturer named Aleksandr Kogan collected the data legitimately through a personality quiz app but then violated Facebook's terms by sharing the information with Cambridge Analytica, a firm later hired by the Trump presidential campaign during the 2016 US election.

But that's only part of the issue regarding the Trump campaigns usage of CA.





So far we have that CA used Facebook data against their terms for the Trump campaign. Then later deleted that data for this reason and potential criminal culpability once the story broke.

They've illegally used foreign workers to perform this work.

The head of Trump's campaign was aware of both due to his position on both.

These are the facts. Being the face of a campaign isn't the same as knowing everything of what happened in it. The same way campaign violations happen in almost every campaign but that doesn't rise to the level of what Trump and his cohorts are doing. Trying to make Trump into some kind of Kingpin of crime is ridiculous.

So despite that, Your argument in short is that Trump knew nothing about the inner workings of his campaign therefore he isn't culpable.

You clearly didn't read any of the other thread if you believe this.

 

[88m3]

Please don't be dishonest. Again, microtargeting isn't the issue the issue is how the gained the data.

@acri1 come get your alias

 

[Pressure]

@acri1 come get your alias

He should post his theory in naps thread. :Krembron:

 

[No Ma’am]

Ari Shakur : This isn't Missy Misdemeanor Elliot here, this is Jayooo Felony

: In Washington, they've racked up enough inditements to field a football team....

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

This is where Mueller is going to pull back. There's no way he wants to destroy an entire party in a two-party system. It would be chaos.

i dunno.
i could see the the republican party seriously damaged by revelations and possible RICO's.
this would encourage the democratic party to break up into leftist and centrist wings.
whateverer is left of the republican party would have to get in where it fits in.
while this happens other special interests could make moves to become influencers.

go for it Mueller.

 

[Json]

Please don't be dishonest. Again, microtargeting isn't the issue the issue is how the gained the data.




But that's only part of the issue regarding the Trump campaigns usage of CA.





So far we have that CA used Facebook data against their terms for the Trump campaign. Then later deleted that data for this reason and potential criminal culpability once the story broke.

They've illegally used foreign workers to perform this work.

The head of Trump's campaign was aware of both due to his position on both.



So despite that, Your argument in short is that Trump knew nothing about the inner workings of his campaign therefore he isn't culpable.

You clearly didn't read any of the other thread if you believe this.

FULL STOP. DID YOU EVEN READ WHAT I ORIGINALLY WAS TALKING ABOUT OR ARE YOU TOO CAUGHT UP IN A CONSPIRACY BOARD AND STRING.

The point was that Trump got ahead in the race with his own bigotry and hate.CA didn't craft his anti-immigrant campaign or build-a-wall message, Mexicans are rapist, drain the swap. CA helped but weren't what made him popular. The voters who responded to the messaging CA targeted had that hate in their hearts. More of them would believe Clinton was running Pizzagate than Trump having let the Saudis kill Jamal without warning him is part of why he won.

You disagree?

I literally said how CA got the data is what the crime is, but that's not going to end up being connected to him. Bannon, Mercer, etc. That's on them.

Russia/Wiki is going towards Trump.

Trump isn't the Kingpin. He's culpable for some crimes but not everything. If you think he's directing every single event in this then you obviously have been watching too many Hollywood movies.

 

[Json]

i dunno.
i could see the the republican party seriously damaged by revelations and possible RICO's.
this would encourage the democratic party to break up into leftist and centrist wings.
whateverer is left of the republican party would have to get in where it fits in.
while this happens other special interests could make moves to become influencers.

go for it Mueller.

Mueller is establishment. Law and Order. If he can minimize the damage to the Republicans on the whole I think he would.

Republicans and some Dems have gone too hard in favor of obscuring dark money fundraising and corporations to have it turned on them for Trump. They'll sacrifice a Cohen or Broidy as "rogue actors" the same way Trump is doing the white nationalist as a small group.

Unless the regular joe Republicans stop voting for them, I don't see much forcing them to change.

I don't see why the Dems would break up. That's what worries me about these Anti-Trumpers trying to steer Dems policy about being progressives cause as soon as they can. They will crawl back into the warm Republican hole when Trump is gone.

 

[88m3]

 

[Pressure]

FULL STOP. DID YOU EVEN READ WHAT I ORIGINALLY WAS TALKING ABOUT OR ARE YOU TOO CAUGHT UP IN A CONSPIRACY BOARD AND STRING.

The point was that Trump got ahead in the race with his own bigotry and hate.CA didn't craft his anti-immigrant campaign or build-a-wall message, Mexicans are rapist, drain the swap. CA helped but weren't what made him popular. The voters who responded to the messaging CA targeted had that hate in their hearts. More of them would believe Clinton was running Pizzagate than Trump having let the Saudis kill Jamal without warning him is part of why he won.

You disagree?

I literally said how CA got the data is what the crime is, but that's not going to end up being connected to him. Bannon, Mercer, etc. That's on them.

Russia/Wiki is going towards Trump.

Trump isn't the Kingpin. He's culpable for some crimes but not everything. If you think he's directing every single event in this then you obviously have been watching too many Hollywood movies.

THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS SAID THAT THE REASON THEY WERE ABLE TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE TODAY IS BECAUSE OF THE MICROTARGETING THEY WERE ABLE TO DO. THIS WAS OUTSIDE OF WHAT TRUMP WOULD COMMUNICATE HIMSELF.

TRUMP WAS ABLE TO COMMUNICATE MORE EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY DUE TO THAT DATA.

THIS IS THE SAME DATA HE USED TO PUSH HIM. OVER THE EDGE FOR WHAT LOOKED LIKE A POSSIBLE CONTESTED CONVENTION.

NO, TRUMP DID NOT WALTZ INTO THE WHITE HOUSE BY JUST BEING A BIGOT.

HE USED THE DATA TO DELIVER THE CORRECT MESSAGES TO THE CORRECT PEOPLE.

THIS HAS BEEN ADMITTED BY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.

IT WAS LITERALLY THE BIG NEWS AFTER HE WON.

IT WAS LATER THAT WE LEARNED A LOT OF THIS MICROTARGETING DATA CAME FROM CA AND WAS OBTAINED ILLEGALLY.

STOP IT.


these oh Trump would have won anyway arguments fly in the face of the behavior of the Trump campaign that was willing to use any corrupt, illegal, immoral, fringe and every other method to get over the hump.

This is the guy who literally asked Russia to hack his opponent during a presidential debate.

 

[jerniebert]

Devin Nunes is getting roasted and I love it.

 

[re'up]

I'm reading the McCabe book, and it is good, very similar to Comey's, which I also really enjoyed. There's a moment where then FBI director Robert Mueller assigns McCabe to an international interrogation task force, and McCabe tries to back out, despite his great respect for Mueller. "What I would really like to do is stay with counterterrorism sir"

Mueller looked at him and said, "You know what I like to do.....try homicides... look what I am doing"

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

I'm reading the McCabe book, and it is good, very similar to Comey's, which I also really enjoyed. There's a moment where then FBI director Robert Mueller assigns McCabe to an international interrogation task force, and McCabe tries to back out, despite his great respect for Mueller. "What I would really like to do is stay with counterterrorism sir"

Mueller looked at him and said, "You know what I like to do.....try homicides... look what I am doing"

Cotdamn told him to man the fuk up