Coil’s father TARIQ NASHEED wants to remove RBG flag

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Gen X abandoned traditional family raising, obsessed with the jails and streets and being "gangsta" 24/7, not getting married, being in the club well into your 40s and 50s, always stuck in superficial shyt like hairline, low key tricking on light skinned hoes and gassing up non black women, and so on.

And how do you think Gen Z is turning out..they were raised by those Gen Z losers..the Z generation is actually worse.
 

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the RBG flag is nothing and is something thats mostly been glorified by ados people

only time that flag is flown is here in america. you not seeing it flown and waved in jamaica, haiti, DR, PR, brazil, Nigeria, etc

they waving their own flag

so Tariq is right, thats not our flag. we have our own ethnic flag, have a juneteenth flag and of course the american flag.
 

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the RBG flag is nothing and is something thats mostly been glorified by ados people

only time that flag is flown is here in america. you not seeing it flown and waved in jamaica, haiti, DR, PR, brazil, Nigeria, etc

they waving their own flag

so Tariq is right, thats not our flag. we have our own ethnic flag, have a juneteenth flag and of course the american flag.
The history of the RGB-flag is explained in this post #44 (49128111).
 
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The history of the RGB-flag is explained in this post #44 49128111.
the flag is spawned from the pan african thinking black americans created that influenced acts like garvey

which goes back to what i said, its something only waved and has meaning here.

there is no meaning in that flag in other countries. go to nigeria waving that to try to cease tribal beefs. or go to Hispaniola island and do that with haitians and dominicans. etc.

you may have some niche group of pannies but to the majority they dont care for it. that flag is only viewed highly by us. the good thing is that is starting to change.
 

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the flag is spawned from the pan african thinking black americans created that influenced acts like garvey

which goes back to what i said, its something only waved and has meaning here.
Besides the history of the RBG-flag and it's relation to the Ethiopian flag, what flag is the oldest Black American heritage flag?

"Although best remembered for his arrangements of African-American spirituals such as "Deep River" (1917), Harry T. Burleigh also made significant contributions to the American art song. Composed during the height of his success to a text by Walt Whitman, Burleigh's "Ethiopia Saluting the Colors" (1915) is a dramatic account of an African-American woman, or Ethiopian (by the mid-nineteenth century, "Ethiopian" had become synonymous with "African" in the Western world), and her chance meeting with a Union Soldier.

In the poem, "Ethiopia" is an old black slave woman who salutes the American flag as she sees General Sherman's troops march by, all the while being watched herself by a soldier. The colors in her turban--yellow, red, and green--represent those found in the Ethiopian flag. Burleigh musically depicts the setting with a precise, militaristic accompaniment, and with the quotation of the Civil War tune "Marching through Georgia." One of Burleigh's most ambitious songs and one he later orchestrated, "Ethiopia Saluting the Colors" is worthy of inclusion in today's concert repertoire."

there is no meaning in that flag in other countries. go to nigeria waving that to try to cease tribal beefs. or go to Hispaniola island and do that with haitians and dominicans. etc.
It has to do with Black American history, so I am not surprised about that. And it was created during a time when other countries were colonized.

you may have some niche group of pannies but to the majority they dont care for it. that flag is only viewed highly by us. the good thing is that is starting to change.
Which explains that Pan Africanism was never as widespread as some claim it was. There was only a small group attached to this. The vast majority was not.

Even at the time with the African medallions, it was only a few in hip hop who wore them.
 
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Besides the history of the RBG-flag and it's relation to the Ethiopian flag, what flag is the oldest Black American heritage flag?

"Although best remembered for his arrangements of African-American spirituals such as "Deep River" (1917), Harry T. Burleigh also made significant contributions to the American art song. Composed during the height of his success to a text by Walt Whitman, Burleigh's "Ethiopia Saluting the Colors" (1915) is a dramatic account of an African-American woman, or Ethiopian (by the mid-nineteenth century, "Ethiopian" had become synonymous with "African" in the Western world), and her chance meeting with a Union Soldier.

In the poem, "Ethiopia" is an old black slave woman who salutes the American flag as she sees General Sherman's troops march by, all the while being watched herself by a soldier. The colors in her turban--yellow, red, and green--represent those found in the Ethiopian flag. Burleigh musically depicts the setting with a precise, militaristic accompaniment, and with the quotation of the Civil War tune "Marching through Georgia." One of Burleigh's most ambitious songs and one he later orchestrated, "Ethiopia Saluting the Colors" is worthy of inclusion in today's concert repertoire."


It has to do with Black American history, so I am not surprised about that. And it was created during a time when other countries were colonized.


Which explains that Pan Africanism was never as widespread as some claim it was. There was only a small group attached to this. The vast majority was not.

Even at the time with the African medallions, it was only a few in hip hop who wore them.
if you want to claim it as black american fine, but its something thats menaing is meant for more inclusive purposes including people who arent. so its not something thats truely meant to rep exclusively for us.

the black american flag, and juneteenth flag does that.
 

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if you want to claim it as black american fine, but its something thats menaing is meant for more inclusive purposes including people who arent. so its not something thats truely meant to rep exclusively for us.
I agree. As you said previously the RBG-flag as we know it is not found as prevalent in other places. But this wiki page explains how a variation of flags arose out of the RBG and Ethiopian flags (country flags with the Pan-African symbolism). It appears to be somewhat more complicated.

"Red, black, and green, first introduced by Marcus Garvey in 1920, have also come to represent Pan-Africanism, and are shown on the pan-African flag. These colours have also been incorporated on national flags, and they have sometimes been used to represent black nationalism rather than Pan-Africanism.[1]"

"The Pan-African flag (also known as the Afro-American flag, Black Liberation flag, UNIA flag, and various other names) is a tri-color flagconsisting of three equal horizontal bands of (from top down) red, black, and green.[1] The Universal Negro Improvement Association and African Communities League (UNIA-ACL) formally adopted it on August 13, 1920, in Article 39 of the Declaration of the Rights of the Negro Peoples of the World, during its month-long convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City.[2][3] Variations of the flag can and have been used in various countries and territories in the Americas to represent Garveyist ideologies."

I have no idea how large the Garveyist movement was at the time, and if and how it impacted Black America.

the black american flag, and juneteenth flag does that.
I agree. I wonder if there are actually older ABOS (aboriginal-indian) flags?

 
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Ok....? This is your biggest gripe right now? Not the fact that we have a generation of gen Z who are anti black to the core? Not the fact that black boys falling behind academically due to neglect? Oldheads on this site got their priorities fukked up. You Gen X have always been the reason why shyt the way it is today.
The irony is that Pan Africanism was found on the basis of higher learning and economic independency. The rejection of this has resulted in what you have summarized. At the time it was the Pan Africans who took the most initiatives in opening businesses, getting into higher education, setting up community organizations such as after school programs etc...

Who is (was) responsible for raising Gen X? And who is (was) responsible for raising Gen Y (The Millennials) and now Gen Z?


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