Cody Rhodes Says Vince Doesn't Hold NXT Superstars Back, Believes They "Become Lazy" After NXT

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If you listen to Bayley interview with Austin she kinda said in nxt everybody helps you and guides you but once you get to the main roster you gotta take charge yourself

Sounded like she wasn't ready for that
 

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On the one hand, I totally see that. For as much as WWE loves pushing the narrative that being a WWE superstar is the only dream their talent has had since they were in the womb, fact is there's probably a good number of men and women in the back who are just fine showing up to TV for their occasional jobber match or to sit in catering, collect their pay, and keep it pushing. Happens in every profession no matter what it is. For some, the time to work hard is when you're trying to get to the dance; once you're there, just kick your feet up and enjoy the perks.

At the same token, talent aren't the ones booking the shows. They're not the ones deciding who does and does not get TV/mic time. Many of them have almost zero say in shaping their promos or characters. Cody may be right in that Vince and co don't hold anyone back, but they also don't afford everyone the same chances to improve or advance in their career. You're not going to tell me Apollo Crews as had as many chances as, say, Baron Corbin or Elias. Not to mention NXT talents who get called up and are almost immediately jobbed out (i.e The Ascension), thus killing the crowd's investment in them.

Rusev is a perfect example of an NXT alum who has proven himself time and again since being called up, holding his own with and even outshining top talent, and he's stuck in the midcard for reasons no one can explain. I don't know much about the man when he's off camera, but based on what I see when he's on my screen, I'd be hard pressed to say he is where he is because he's lazy.

I'd venture that has something to do with the fact that Corbin is one of the few talents they have who is genuinely disliked by a fairly large % of the audience while Crews doesn't illicit any particular reaction to speak of. At least people hate Baron Corbin. You can work with that. Who has strong feelings of any kind about Apollo Crews?

Re: the Ascension, do we think they missed out on some huge potential stars there? Somebody has to be at the bottom of the roster, it might aswell be the low-ceiling talents like The Ascension, Tye Dillinger etc.

As for Rusev, I fukk with him but have they really done such a bad job with him overall? Unless you think he should be headlining Mania or something, he's kind of where he's supposed to be. Midcard, yeah, but he's still been perceived as "strong/a tough out" throughout his time there and has been afforded enough leeway to get himself kinda over with the Rusev Day thing. It's not as if he's been jobbed out to the point of no return.

Rusev has actually been much more successful in WWE than anyone would have predicted when he was that guy debuting in the Royal Rumble with no shoes and everybody was like "this guy sucks". WWE are apparently better talent scouts than they're given credit for, considering that almost no one (here or in the wider IWC) saw anything in Rusev when they introduced him and yet WWE persisted with him and now everyone thinks he's awesome and that a midcard career is him being "held down".

If WWE "listened to their audience", Rusev would have been gone before anyone noticed that he's actually dope af.
 

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I don't think it's about being lazy in the ring, but being lazy with ideas. From nearly everything I've heard, Vince is normally very open to wrestlers coming up with new gimmicks and ideas, and although you might not get more than a low-card tv push, that shyt is still better than being off tv for weeks in a row like a Tye Dillinger is.
 

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I don't think it's about being lazy in the ring, but being lazy with ideas. From nearly everything I've heard, Vince is normally very open to wrestlers coming up with new gimmicks and ideas, and although you might not get more than a low-card tv push, that shyt is still better than being off tv for weeks in a row like a Tye Dillinger is.

Agreed.

Take Dillinger for example. The dude's gimmick is basically the number 10... and has been for a lonnng ass time.

How far is that supposed to go on the main roster? I don't know if he's pitching ideas or adding creative input about his character, but if he's not, can anyone really be surprised he's not getting much push?

There's a reason people like Jericho, Punk, Miz, and more recently New Day and AJ became stars on the roster despite Vince's lack of seriously intending to push them... none of these people seem like the type that were sitting around just waiting for a writer to pass them a script.
 

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Agreed.

Take Dillinger for example. The dude's gimmick is basically the number 10... and has been for a lonnng ass time.

How far is that supposed to go on the main roster? I don't know if he's pitching ideas or adding creative input about his character, but if he's not, can anyone really be surprised he's not getting much push?

There's a reason people like Jericho, Punk, Miz, and more recently New Day and AJ became stars on the roster despite Vince's lack of seriously intending to push them... none of these people seem like the type that were sitting around just waiting for a writer to pass them a script.
all of them just sat back and waited on the script.
New Day simply were able to outperform the shytty script and catch hold.
 

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The only thing that I will argue is when a wrestler gets saddle with an out of touch gimmick or pushing their chosen talent to the top while burying the hot act.
 
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