CNN’s Don Lemon: Bill O’Reilly Doesn’t Go Far Enough To Demonize American Black Culture

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if pants sagging and using the n word are serious problems, then it should be holding back all the other people who do it, LOL. this is fukking retarded

criminality is a two way street. you cant decry black crime while ignoring the disproportionate policing. white people deal with drugs more than any other group but are policed much lighter. if don wanted to help, he would call for an end to the war on drugs ASAP
 

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Two things..

Perhaps if he had started with the lack of (or limited) education and economic opportunities for blacks then I would have been with him.

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Another thing......people create their own educational and economic opportunities. If you have no interest in being educated or holding a job then you will be unsuccessful in life.

The idea that black people as a whole are helpless and can't do for themselves is rather insulting. Don't have jobs? Create your own business, a$$hole.
 

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I am not dismissing what you said. Actually you were the one dismissing everything Bill O'Reilly said by instinctively calling him racist instead of addressing the substance of his words. O'Reilly isn't ignoring the bigger issues at hand he is trying to discuss serious issues. All you can do is name call.
not at all. Why shouldn't i dismiss whatever bill o'reilly has to say. If he's going to discuss race and shyt then he should address how of centuries of oppressing black people has destabilize the community and stunted its growth to such a point where it will take decades for shyt to really start to get better. And with all the laws(and recent events), the wait might be longer. :heh:

The black men has been told he aint shyt since they put him in chains. Even when he tries to better himself, he's shown signs at every turn that he aint shyt and never gon' be shyt. And when you have so many absentee black fathers, it makes their offspring more susceptible to the "black culture" bill O'reilly speaks of that makes them feel like they are somebody. Even though its all superficial. Why do you think the first thing black athletes do when they get that first big contract is to buy a gang of material shyt that aint never going to be of any use to them?? Time and time again they try to fill up that void to no avail. And eventually they go broke.
Slavery might be over but the chains are still there. Strong family foundation can help take care of a lot of these issues. But how can a man teach his kids shyt when he didn't learn shyt??

So no i dont wanna hear shyt from Bill O'Reilly because he's talking about the fissure on the roof of the house and NOT the BULLshyt foundation which is the reason for the fissure. :manny:
 
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What about the personally responsible blacks? Look at the c00ning they have to do for jobs. The problem is internal and external. Blacks have been born into a racist society. When I was a kid, i was happy go lucky, I grew up and suddenly there are Zimmerman's and O'Reilly's in my world. Define prejudice. Blacks can't run from their skin color, a nikka in a suit is the same as a black man in a suit, they are both less likely to get a job than a white man in a suit.

This is an attitude blacks needs to change, but also the other people we live with.
 

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if pants sagging and using the n word are serious problems, then it should be holding back all the other people who do it, LOL. this is fukking retarded

criminality is a two way street. you cant decry black crime while ignoring the disproportionate policing. white people deal with drugs more than any other group but are policed much lighter. if don wanted to help, he would call for an end to the war on drugs ASAP

I think that is a factor, and im not suggesting ignoring racism and violations of constitutional rights but if racist policing was the main problem then black cities with black mayors and police chiefs wouldn't be plagued by violent crime
 

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I think that is a factor, and im not suggesting ignoring racism and violations of constitutional rights but if racist policing was the main problem then black cities with black mayors and police chiefs wouldn't be plagued by violent crime
you dont have to be white to play a part in the racist prison industrial complex. you just have to be incentivised and brainwashed. prisons bring jobs, all mayors love bringing jobs. whether those jobs are predatory on the most vulnerable people is not their concern any way since they mostly get money from lobbies and affluent voters.

i would mention the field ******/house ****** dichotomy, but that would be a bit too extreme, just know that the same dynamics are at play.

and back to the sagging pants and use of the n-word. if it is objectively harmful to the user, then racists and wiggers should all be suffering right now. if that is not happening, then we know that is a waste of our time.

and racist policing isnt the main problem, there are too many for me to even say what the main one is. racist employment and loaning is another issue not addressed at all by this discussion.
 

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i dont think people appreciate the underlying belief that they are spreading by simply blaming white racism, what you are saying is that black people cannot survive without white people

that is why i dont believe anything im saying is going against my race

my underlying premise is that black people are fully capable of thriving regardless of what white people are doing
 
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smh and lol at this dude talking about Harlem like that is something you see all the time. I swear these middle class Black folks in Harlem are just as condescending as the white hipsters they love to complain about. While I do think people have a tendency to have knee jerk reactions when it comes to criticizing the Black community, his list was bullshyt. I can't stand these Black "don't use the N-Word" culture warriors because after a couple of drinks they slip up and say it themselves. The sagging pants never really bothered me, because even in the hood you stop doing once you pass a certain age. I am far from being a liberal, but bullshyt like this from Lemon and Elder is one of the main reasons why the Black community does not respond well to the right.
 

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It is 2013. Blaming all of black people's problems on evil white people holding them down becomes more and more laughable every year.

It is not surprising that you don't care about statistics because statistics disprove everything you say. Look at the poverty rates of black people who graduate high school and wait until marriage to have kids versus black people who drop out of school and have tons of kids out of wedlock. The disparities are amazing and prove that the lack of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY is the biggest obstacle holding back black people in America. But brainwashed morons like yourself would rather cry about racism while every other racial group like Asians, Hispanics, et continue to blow past you.

You are an idiot.


stop the bullshyt...personal responsibility [in this context] is the same as morality.,.there is no moral basis for favorable economic outcomes...righteousness doesnt prevent poverty;;;sin doesnt prevent wealth...
 

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It is 2013. Blaming all of black people's problems on evil white people holding them down becomes more and more laughable every year.

It is not surprising that you don't care about statistics because statistics disprove everything you say. Look at the poverty rates of black people who graduate high school and wait until marriage to have kids versus black people who drop out of school and have tons of kids out of wedlock. The disparities are amazing and prove that the lack of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY is the biggest obstacle holding back black people in America. But brainwashed morons like yourself would rather cry about racism while every other racial group like Asians, Hispanics, et continue to blow past you.

You are an idiot.
the gawd is back :blessed:
 

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you dont have to be white to play a part in the racist prison industrial complex. you just have to be incentivised and brainwashed. prisons bring jobs, all mayors love bringing jobs. whether those jobs are predatory on the most vulnerable people is not their concern any way since they mostly get money from lobbies and affluent voters.

i would mention the field ******/house ****** dichotomy, but that would be a bit too extreme, just know that the same dynamics are at play.

and back to the sagging pants and use of the n-word. if it is objectively harmful to the user, then racists and wiggers should all be suffering right now. if that is not happening, then we know that is a waste of our time.

and racist policing isnt the main problem, there are too many for me to even say what the main one is. racist employment and loaning is another issue not addressed at all by this discussion.

yeah but you are the one that mentioned racist policing, so i was just responding to that

i think that's bs excuse, that might be true of white cities that have black mayors and police chiefs but im talking about majority black cities with black mayors and police chiefs, they dont depend on prison jobs and prison money to stay in power, they are elected by black voters, so its the voters that are responsible if according to you they are targeting black people

and like i said if it was simply about racism, then the blacker a community is the more prosperous the community will be because there would be less white people

i havent seen any studies about wiggers, but any person or people that do not focus on education will lose, the point of sagging pants and saying nikka is that they are part of an anti academic culture, its not that they by themselves cause harm, its the culture that causes harm
 

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yeah but you are the one that mentioned racist policing, so i was just responding to that

i think that's bs excuse, that might be true of white cities that have black mayors and police chiefs but im talking about majority black cities with black mayors and police chiefs, they dont depend on prison jobs and prison money to stay in power, they are elected by black voters, so its the voters that are responsible if according to you they are targeting black people

and like i said if it was simply about racism, then the blacker a community is the more prosperous the community will be because there would be less white people

i havent seen any studies about wiggers, but any person or people that do not focus on education will lose, the point of sagging pants and saying nikka is that they are part of an anti academic culture, its not that they by themselves cause harm, its the culture that causes harm
i just said brainwashing. that addresses the public at large who think drugs are a thing you are supposed to wage a war on, and that war is supposed to be waged in our neighborhoods and not in white ones. this mindset has plagued people of all colors thanks to the propaganda

i still havent said that anything is the main issue or the only issue, by the way.

and is that what don lemon is saying about the pants and nikka usage, or is that what you are saying?
 

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At least I can get the demonic message straight from the demon's mouth instead of the toned down PC version these homo liberals will spout.
ah, that's why you're a fan of the Grand Dragon Ron Paul and american SS team leader Rand Paul.

Its so :demonic: brehs.
 

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i just said brainwashing. that addresses the public at large who think drugs are a thing you are supposed to wage a war on, and that war is supposed to be waged in our neighborhoods and not in white ones. this mindset has plagued people of all colors thanks to the propaganda

i still havent said that anything is the main issue or the only issue, by the way.

and is that what don lemon is saying about the pants and nikka usage, or is that what you are saying?

yeah but my point is if its racist policing, one solution would be to have majority black cities and with black mayors, police chiefs and judges, and we do have those, and if it was just the racist cops then those cities would be different than black neighborhoods target by white police, but in reality the situation in a majority black city (with a black power structure) is pretty much the same as majority black neighborhood elect black people, so racist cops do not explain everything

and for the record, im all for ending the drug war and im all for enforcing civil rights laws and individual rights, i just do not agree that those things will fix black neighborhoods and black cities, the fix requires a cultural change

that is what im saying but i agree with the gist of what don lemon is saying
 
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