CNN panel: Why aren't these bikers called "thugs"?

[Perfectson]

fukkin bobbling head on that white guy , when he say's forget the past, and move on.

these are the type of arguments when you try to talk to people intellectually but at some point you just gotta snuff em...you just got to, just look at them straight in the eyes, realize they are haters, and snuff em.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Havent watched the vid,will later but fukk it ill say it: the word "thug" is synonymous with black people mainly because of rap. You all know it. "Thug Life" "thug lovin", "www.thug.com" "thug holiday" and a host of many other song and album titles are a regularity in hiphop culture. Damn near every rap song has a "thug" reference. Not only is the reference there, its glorified. Rappers wear the "thug" badge with honor. Right now, one of the hottest rappers with one of the largest platforms to influence goes by the name of "Young Thug". The word "thug" isn't derogatory in rap. Its only derogatory when white people say it. When a white person does something bad and you all refer to him/her as a "thug" i chuckle a bit because i know yall are doing it tongue & cheek. Yall dont really believe it. It doesnt sound right referring to a white person as a "thug". You and i both know it. Be honest. You wont, but be honest. The image of a "thug" has been burned and branded ar that of a young,black male. When you see or hear the word "thug", your mind AUTOMATICALLY conjures up the image of a black male. I know ima get called a "c00n" again for speaking what everyone else is afraid to say, but oh well. Im not a sheep. If we dont care what white folks think, then it shouldnt matter what they call us right? Im just letting yall know where they get "thug" from specifically. Rap,(which has PURPOSELY been manipulated to create the image of the "thug" as a black male) is the reason. @Cbanks36 @mrken12 @kp404 @Truth200 @Barnett114 @DarianaGrande @philmonroe @HankHill @Emperor_ReinScarf @Taadow @Matt504
@Wild self @No_bammer_weed @ModernFonzie

Cmon man

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Thug is a cac's safe word for ******. Are there really people in here trying to justify white people's usage of it?

'Ol bu bu bu but we say nikka too so we shouldn't be mad ass nikkas.

Coli gon Coli though.

 

[PhonZhi]

Okay...then why don't you just say this instead of referring to everyone here as "fools" who are "brainswashed"?

Because if you are as "hip-hop" as you say, you would know that:

1. "Mainstream" hip-hop music is not the end all be all to rap music, and
2. Old white/jewish guys were always the ones dictating what gets mainstream radio play.
That's not our fault. You're yelling at the wrong people.

But to suggest(not YOU specifically) that hiphop has NO affect is scary to me. Ive been around the youth from certain conditions and backgrounds. THOSE are the black youth that are being targeted to fill up prison cells in the future. The ones WITHOUT guidance and a stable family structure. Those are the ones that this music is aimed at. Why do you think its "dumbed down" and so catchy? Its tailored-made for the "not so bright" and the ones without support. Some of these kids WORSHIP these rappers. Ive seen it. They are some of these kids father figure. It is NOT "just entertainment". Thats wat pisses me off is when people(especially a "grown" black person) says that. Theres lots of young people that post here (i just turned 32) so i have to keep that in mind. I didnt come to my current mindset about rap till around 3-4 years ago so i just have to be more aware of the age of who im going back and forth with.

 

[PhonZhi]

I don't give a damn who you do or don't fucc with, or how you attain to "peace". That's none of my business, yo.

Completely lost me here. Maybe u misunderstood the post? I obviously struck a nerve bringing up yall precious "pawgs" im done for the night


























Goodnight baes. See yall in my dreams

 

[PhonZhi]

Hold on. @Taadow Are u white? Did u get offended when i said "i dont fukk with whites". You seem to have taken those words personal

 

[Taadow]

But to suggest(not YOU specifically) that hiphop has NO affect is scary to me. Ive been around the youth from certain conditions and backgrounds. THOSE are the black youth that are being targeted to fill up prison cells in the future. The ones WITHOUT guidance and a stable family structure. Those are the ones that this music is aimed at. Why do you think its "dumbed down" and so catchy? Its tailored-made for the "not so bright" and the ones without support. Some of these kids WORSHIP these rappers. Ive seen it. They are some of these kids father figure. It is NOT "just entertainment". Thats wat pisses me off is when people(especially a "grown" black person) says that. Theres lots of young people that post here (i just turned 32) so i have to keep that in mind. I didnt come to my current mindset about rap till around 3-4 years ago so i just have to be more aware of the age of who im going back and forth with.

But you're not gonna 'help' anybody by approaching them "pissed off" and coming at them sideways -
which is how you come on here.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Naw, these fools aren't "aware" that media propaganda is being used against us. The fact that they're wondering why white media dont refer to their own in a derogative manner confirms this. They dont disrespect themselves in front of the world, meanwhile we've been conditioned to make and sing songs disrespecting ourselves and promoting our own genocide, for white peoples'entertainment.

What are YOU personally doing for the black community to combat violence, the use of the word thug, the use of the word nikka etc

 

[Izanami]

fukkin bobbling head on that white guy , when he say's forget the past, and move on.

these are the type of arguments when you try to talk to people intellectually but at some point you just gotta snuff em...you just got to, just look at them straight in the eyes, realize they are haters, and snuff em.

Naw certain CACS love putting their heads in the sand when you bring up the past, slavery, Jim crow, lynching, Tulsa Riots etc.. But let's NEVER forget 9/11!...dude blaming blacks for unarmed fatal shootings against black by police...

 

[mrken12]

What are YOU personally doing for the black community to combat violence, the use of the word thug, the use of the word nikka etc

Didn't he say that he drove trucks?

So the answer is not a damn thing.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Maybe it's just me, but the very first thing that pops into my head when I hear the word 'thug' is this......

 

[rapbeats]

A bogus topic??......nikka they are adressing this shyt because those cac bikers were treated like fukking royalty after 9 people were killed when they were acting like animal's.....these cops even knew this shyt was going down and waited till after to do anything about it....if it was a black or a hispanic gang meet up??...that shyt would have been deaded....

exactly. i heard on the news last night when they were talking about it. this white reporter ended the story "They people who died.....Died in their Jackets ...adorning the biker gangs names they themselves celebrated."

Now ask me was there ever a moment in news during the mid 90's when the L.A. Gangs were running rampant, did i ever hear a new person say "They died in their colors of choice, that they so celebrated."???
HELL NO.. The report would be "drive by shooting, or shoot out or X number of men dead after Gang violence." Then commentary "These thugs......"

White folks even after killing up one another still gets a pass.

How insane is that.? lol

 

[rapbeats]

Havent watched the vid,will later but fukk it ill say it: the word "thug" is synonymous with black people mainly because of rap. You all know it. "Thug Life" "thug lovin", "www.thug.com" "thug holiday" and a host of many other song and album titles are a regularity in hiphop culture. Damn near every rap song has a "thug" reference. Not only is the reference there, its glorified. Rappers wear the "thug" badge with honor. Right now, one of the hottest rappers with one of the largest platforms to influence goes by the name of "Young Thug". The word "thug" isn't derogatory in rap. Its only derogatory when white people say it. When a white person does something bad and you all refer to him/her as a "thug" i chuckle a bit because i know yall are doing it tongue & cheek. Yall dont really believe it. It doesnt sound right referring to a white person as a "thug". You and i both know it. Be honest. You wont, but be honest. The image of a "thug" has been burned and branded ar that of a young,black male. When you see or hear the word "thug", your mind AUTOMATICALLY conjures up the image of a black male. I know ima get called a "c00n" again for speaking what everyone else is afraid to say, but oh well. Im not a sheep. If we dont care what white folks think, then it shouldnt matter what they call us right? Im just letting yall know where they get "thug" from specifically. Rap,(which has PURPOSELY been manipulated to create the image of the "thug" as a black male) is the reason. @Cbanks36 @mrken12 @kp404 @Truth200 @Barnett114 @DarianaGrande @philmonroe @HankHill @Emperor_ReinScarf @Taadow @Matt504
@Wild self @No_bammer_weed @ModernFonzie

you need to learn your history. dont let what you think is obvious be reality because it isnt. white people were calling you Thugs and any other negative name at the time they could think of to describe you even before you were actually gettin ya thug on. So that aint it at all. dont believe the hype. and you want to keep it real funky. So... you mean to tell me these balding 50+ year olds were listening to 2 pac like that? of course not. so stop the lies. this aint a bunch of super young people telling these lies and stories. the old heads are the ones saying thugs, they taught the younger gen of news people how it works. THug to white people = N....GER

its that simple.

THug to black people does not = N....GER

It = THUG. the actual true definition of the word.

You know this because if black people riot on weds after one of their own was shot unarmed and all, no priors. for no good reason. and white kids riot on thursday because their team just won the championship. they wont even call it a riot. they will call it something else. they will not call the kids trashing stores THUGS. they will call them something else. These are the facts on the ground people. it has NOTHING to do with black people. and everything to do with white people's(in general) pathology. So please stop spouting off your responses thinking you coming up with something that everyone is afraid to say. we are not short with people saying what you just said. there are millions of c00ns or black folks that believe what you just said is true. that still doesnt make it reality. remember we were all brainwashed by racism and white supremacy. it affected some more than others. yall remember ole boy in the matrix that knew it wasnt real and still wanted to sit there and eat his steak? well thats a lot of black folks too. then there are those that really dont know that this is a game thats rigged for them to lose.

THe fact of the matter that you ever called yourself a thug or a N...gga is a testament to racism and white supremacy basically destroying you for centuries to the point where you have to turn negatives into positives because you aint got nothing else. SO miss all of us with that "i'm going to say what yall are afraid to say." LEARN YOUR HISTORY, Learn how to read People's pathology. White people to be specific.

while you are running around thinking its YOU or US' fault. Its their engineering from the Jump. stop blaming the victim and blame the perpetrator/ blame the oppressor. the last trick of the oppressor is for you to oppress your own on his behalf without even knowing it.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

I noticed this Thug shyt a long time ago. It was subtle at first. Then popped up more and more. White people got so brave they put it in quotations so they could give each other a wink and a nudge. Mexicans are illegals, blacks are "thugs" and white people are just isolated incidents who were mentally ill or fringe trash not representative of the whole race. That narrative has jumped from idiot Yahoo and news site commenters and hit the mainstream.

But the problem is Tupac said Thug Life right?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

That bald white racist MF got straight up owned