Clark Kent says Biggie's dead because 2pac lied

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Here’s the thing which sort of disconnects me as someone who is Big’s age it was in the mix from what you guys are talking about. The streets dictated what was hot back then in hip hop and that was the real “release” date.

So when you say “who shot ya” was dropped on the orders…

First of all… Big had NO pull in bad boy to dictate what was going to be dropped.

Second… The real release date for songs was considered to be songs, played on mix, tapes, stretch, and Bobbito, those things. Those were New York release dates. The buzz was already on the streets for that song before Pac got clapped.

Not Bigs orders, like I said he was the mouthpiece. Timing lines up too well and then you see Big flaunting pieces similar to what Pac was missing.

Disses on top of disses. I know you can say they all shopped at the same district but man, how many "coincidences" do you need?
 

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Not Bigs orders, like I said he was the mouthpiece. Timing lines up too well and then you see Big flaunting pieces similar to what Pac was missing.

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When?

You doing too much now. This sounds like some internet shyt.
 

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There would be no coordinated murder in LA if that lie was never told. Big would have no issue in Cali at all. Just another artist there to promote their project
I agree to an extent breh …. But I think it was a combination ov things I truly think suge was that spiteful and had it in his mind that if pac goes big or puff had to join him in the afterlife unfortunately
 

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I think he already had some smaller issues with Big but Big also became the face of NY & was crowned the King. The dudes who Pac knew that got at him at the Quad would've been nobodies to the general public
Yeah majesty from live squad said on queensflip that before quad while biggie was blowing up pac would make little comments about how big was not giving pac his respect or shout outs for helpin him or his words taking his “baby baby “ … I know for a fact I heard pac and syke saying “baby baby “
Before big … but anyways by these comments what majesty pac was already feeling some type of way about big …. I deffo think pac was maybe a little envious and surprised of how fast and big that biggie blew up
 

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There would be no coordinated murder in LA if that lie was never told. Big would have no issue in Cali at all. Just another artist there to promote their project
If he parents didn’t get together u wouldn’t be born and Jay Z would have one less fan. Who cares bruh. Lol
 

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Yeah majesty from live squad said on queensflip that before quad while biggie was blowing up pac would make little comments about how big was not giving pac his respect or shout outs for helpin him or his words taking his “baby baby “ … I know for a fact I heard pac and syke saying “baby baby “
Before big … but anyways by these comments what majesty pac was already feeling some type of way about big …. I deffo think pac was maybe a little envious and surprised of how fast and big that biggie blew up
Majesty ALSO said Pac didn’t hate on Big and he was always excited and happy to see him on TV when he was blowing up. He said he would be jumping around the room n all that. Since u wanna quote him. Don’t conveniently leave shyt out.
 

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:childplease:
When?

You doing too much now. This sounds like some internet shyt.

"The rings and things you sing about, bring 'em out
It's hard to yell when the barrel's in your mouth
It's more than I expected, I thought your jewels was rented
But they wasn't, so run it, cousin"


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Pre shooting Big wasn't iced out like that. Post he suddenly had a lot of pieces very similar to Pacs and then you've got the bars as well which seem to tell the same tale. You can find countless pics online of the era and the timelines, rhymes and everything else aligns perfect so I'm saying that maybe, just maybe, the bad boy wasn't quite the angel three decades of PR makes most people believe.

I did say they may have came from the same place, bought by the same friends so there are angles but sometimes you just gotta keep it simple and see whats in front of your vision.

"See me in the street, your jewelry you can keep it, that'll be our little secret"

Once again, even if he was totally innocent of wrongdoing and not in any way complicit the lyrics say something else (just like the Dead Presidents diss) but stans willing skim over this to paint Pac as some paranoid demon who was unnecessarily beefing.

Same rings, different fingers... Picture what he said...
 

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"The rings and things you sing about, bring 'em out
It's hard to yell when the barrel's in your mouth
It's more than I expected, I thought your jewels was rented
But they wasn't, so run it, cousin"


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Pre shooting Big wasn't iced out like that. Post he suddenly had a lot of pieces very similar to Pacs and then you've got the bars as well which seem to tell the same tale. You can find countless pics online of the era and the timelines, rhymes and everything else aligns perfect so I'm saying that maybe, just maybe, the bad boy wasn't quite the angel three decades of PR makes most people believe.

I did say they may have came from the same place, bought by the same friends so there are angles but sometimes you just gotta keep it simple and see whats in front of your vision.

"See me in the street, your jewelry you can keep it, that'll be our little secret"

Once again, even if he was totally innocent of wrongdoing and not in any way complicit the lyrics say something else (just like the Dead Presidents diss) but stans willing skim over this to paint Pac as some paranoid demon who was unnecessarily beefing.
Pre shooting, BIG didnt have dough in his pocket from Bad Boy.

Man….I cant do this internet speculation bullshyt.


Yall stay doing too much.
 

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My take on this whole situation is … Clark Kent is right in about pac saving face about quad …. which was wrong ….. but I think what became dangerous is when pac linked with suge he’s the one who had a bunch of hardcore killers around him ready for what ever ….pac deffo caused unnecessary tension towards big n them but soon as suge was in the picture that’s what made it that much more dangerous in my opinion….. as far as blaming pac for biggies death …. I don’t see it as cut and dry n I’ll be fair there … I think it’s a number of things you could say partly but I think once suge knew badboy was connected to southside crips , once pac was dead suge and pirus had it in there minds that badboy /southside crips conspired together and it was gona make sure either biggie or puffy was killed that’s how I seee it n suge been spiteful he made sure it hit badboy where it hurt aka killing it’s biggest star …. Another thing just my personal opinion if that was me and I heard about the rivals having a mini-gang war with the crip set my label is connected over my rival over there then I know they serious n out to make an example out of possibly me or someone in my crew I wouldn’t be stepping foot in that area for a cool few years to cool things offf … no matter what anyone says badboy definitely went to California way to soon…..
 

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Pre shooting, BIG didnt have dough in his pocket from Bad Boy.

Man….I cant do this internet speculation bullshyt.


Yall stay doing too much.


Like I said:

Ignore what doesn't fit what you want to see. I switched the pic for another that makes it more obvious. Other explanations are possible but the lyrics say what it is.

Mouthpiece.
 

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Majesty ALSO said Pac didn’t hate on Big and he was always excited and happy to see him on TV when he was blowing up. He said he would be jumping around the room n all that. Since u wanna quote him. Don’t conveniently leave shyt out.
Yeah he did say that … but he am saying he was also saying some negative stuff too n maybe where the rumblings began from
 

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This isn’t necessarily true

Yea, Pac may have lied. And Biggie likely didn’t know.

However, PUFF likely knew. Puff was allegedly at Quad completely separate from Big….and just so happened to be there with Jimmy henchmen :comeon:

That’s a common misconception that people view Puff and Big the same. They weren’t . Puff was connected, big was just the rapper.

So if the man behind the hit is Jimmy, and puff is close with him, Biggie was gettin roped in that anyway. So a more accurate description is Biggie died bc his right hand man was a super street affiliated puff.

People view Puff as soft. Instead of puff, imagine that same situation is Suge, or j Prince. You wouldn’t blame the dead man. You’d say ‘damn, he got killed bc of being involved in Suge’s bs, Prince bs, etc’. People should view Puff as having the same level of street ties
 
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