"'Clair Obscur: Expedition 33' utterly destroys Square Enix's gaslighting over Final Fantasy turn-based combat"-Windows Central

[MeachTheMonster]

Rebirth sales in the U.S. being down a double digit percentage, a message from a few months after release is not a NUMBER is you initially said. Is this the quality of discourse on here?

It quite literally is a number. A factual statement. Not an opinion.

“Flopped” is a perspective. It’s an opinion. There’s really no point in arguing over that.

I’ve seen you call games that have sold way more than rebirth a “Flop” and games that sold much less a smashing success.

Factually the franchise is currently on a downward trend. In the face of drastic changes that fans keep complaining about, it would seem those changes aren’t resonating like square wants them to.

Again i’m not sure why that’s such a controversial take to some of you.

Statements =/= number. Also, it's OLD information. How you choose to say THAT'S a factual statement from early 2024 to then in 2025 to disqualify that SAME source is absolute nasty work. So are Rebirth sales down double digits in the U.S. as of today? What are the NUMBERS you keep posting about.

So do you think it just magically reversed course and started selling numbers to catch up and overtake those two?

Games are front loaded. If the game was behind from the jump, it most likely has not changed that course.

The 2024 statement is not at odds with the 2025 statement.

One is comparing the game to its own franchise. The other is comparing the game to sales of other software on playstation.

Both things can be true. Apparently both things ARE true.

Again, not sure what you are having so much trouble with that

 

[Fatboi1]

It quite literally is a number. A factual statement. Not an opinion.

“Flopped” is a perspective. It’s an opinion. There’s really no point in arguing over that.

I’ve seen you call games that have sold way more than rebirth a “Flop” and games that sold much less a smashing success.

Factually the franchise is currently on a downward trend. In the face of drastic changes that fans keep complaining about, it would seem those changes aren’t resonating like square wants them to.

Again i’m not sure why that’s such a controversial take to some of you.

So do you think it just magically reversed course and started selling numbers to catch up and overtake those two?

Games are front loaded. If the game was behind from the jump, it most likely has not changed that course.

The 2024 statement is not at odds with the 2025 statement.

One is comparing the game to its own franchise. The other is comparing the game to sales of other software on playstation.

Both things can be true. Apparently both things ARE true.

Again, not sure what you are having so much trouble with that

Saying it's literally a number is like saying "Meach makes the majority of dumb posts on this forum" and when asked for a number, I tell you that the statement is a number.




I'm done here. You only want to argue because it's an exclusive adjacent game. Had FF Rebirth been a 3 platform game you would've not even cared.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Saying it's literally a number is like saying "Meach makes the majority of dumb posts on this forum" and when asked for a number to, I'm tell you that the statement is a number.

I'm done here.

A percentage is a number.

You posted him saying

“seems pretty good to me”

That’s an opinion.

Another person can look at that same percentage and say

“that looks terrible”

I’m only concerned with the percentage. You and your cac tweets can argue over opinions if u want.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You only want to argue because it's an exclusive adjacent game. Had FF Rebirth been a 3 platform game you would've not even cared.

And this is where you tell on yourself.

At this point the only ones defending square are irrational sony stans.

The rest of us just want a good FF game

 

[Fatboi1]

And this is where you tell on yourself.

At this point the only ones defending square are irrational sony stans.

The rest of us just want a good FF game

Refuting incorrect information is not "defending."

A good FF game was Rebirth recently.

 

[PS5 Pro]

You would think this Clair game sold 20m the way people are acting

Why would sales determine quality of a game? You looking for HYPE, this game is about substance bruh

Refuting incorrect information is not "defending."

A good FF game was Rebirth recently.

It was good because it was exclusive. If it was multiplat you wouldn't have mentioned it
You, like how you all would name drop MLB The Show even had leagues.
You was front and center with locked arms with Goldenglove and his brother hyping iup Killzone SF
I'm not saying rebirth isn't a decent game, I'm saying even non decent games that are exclusive get praise from the likes of youj
We have decades worth of proof on that so I'm just gonna do a victory screech and keep it moving

 

[Barney Rubble]

And Clair is mostly being played on Game Pass

 

[rdj]

And Clair is mostly being played on Game Pass

Rebirth wasn’t day and date.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

And Clair is mostly being played on Game Pass

Says who?

 

[gurf]

nikkas can't even enjoy a good game without delving in some non existent console babble.

nikkas in here shytting on FF games they haven't even played.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Rebirth wasn’t day and date.

Says who?

True that Rebrith wasn't day and date but it also wasn't available on Game Pass or Xbox.

34 million subscribers have free access, I would hope they can beat those numbers, rather than pay full price.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

34 million subscribers have free access, I would hope they can beat those numbers, rather than pay full price.

Yet we constantly get PR that a game on gamepass hits a million players like a month later or don’t get any PR at all about player numbers.

it Wouldn’t be a surprise if more people on playstation and steam combined sold more copies than people played on Gamepass.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

nikkas can't even enjoy a good game without delving in some non existent console babble.

nikkas in here shytting on FF games they haven't even played.

I honestly feel like brehs just miss arguing with each other

 

[Barney Rubble]

Yet we constantly get PR that a game on gamepass hits a million players like a month later or don’t get any PR at all about player numbers.

it Wouldn’t be a surprise if more people on playstation and steam combined sold more copies than people played on Gamepass.

Playstation and steam combined, sure, but I doubt just steam considering Game Pass is on PC, too.

 

[gurf]

I honestly feel like brehs just miss arguing with each other

They out here sounding like these cacs they like to quote.

nikkas really pulling up steam stats for fukking single player games that released a year + ago.