Civil rights leader Ben Jealous is on a mission to ensure Black men get out to vote in midterm elections

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Whites will sit out an election if they think it is necessary.

When? I need multiple examples.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Well there's always going to be influence in politics but that isn't always a bad thing on its face. For instance, let's say a car company wanted to put a plant in your city and they start using their influence with the mayor and aldermen.

Is that a bad thing? The car company is doing it because they want to make money. But it's also creating jobs for citizens and bringing tax revenue to the city.

I have no issue with that.

Now the flip side is what if a nuclear power plant wants to put a toxic waste dump near your city? And they're trying to use their influence to do that?

Now that I have an issue with.

(I've seen both of these situations)

So with that being said, that still doesn't negate what I said before. Don't complain from the sidelines. Get involved.

The people who I helped get elected didn't have any history as politicians. This was their first elected position. And now they're in there making moves to help the people.

I respect that more than I respect someone who posts "both siderisms" on the coli all day and night, making defeatist posts about everything and when you tell them okay, get involved, they come back with excuses.

I don't have a problem with the money changing hands aspects as that's just the nature of the business and happens in all walks of life and not just politics. What I more so have the problem with it is when one person will complain about someone else taking money and favors when they're essentially doing the exact same thing. It becomes a situation of my hands aren't as dirty as your hands eventhough you both engage in the same aspects which I have no problem with as that's the way the world works.

A favor for a favor.

 

[Easy-E]

If they care about the economy, if they care about health care, if they care about education … all of that is on the ballot this fall and they better show up,”

(RIP Mr. Russell)

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I don't have a problem with the money changing hands aspects as that's just the nature of the business and happens in all walks of life and not just politics. What I more so have the problem with it is when one person will complain about someone else taking money and favors when they're essentially doing the exact same thing. It becomes a situation of my hands aren't as dirty as your hands eventhough you both engage in the same aspects which I have no problem with as that's the way the world works.

A favor for a favor.

In local politics, nobody is complaining about that. That's how "the game" is played. That's why I asked you for your definition of what "the game" means when you mentioned it earlier. Money is in politics. That's just facts. And there's nothing wrong with that. I used to get mad about stupid stuff like that, until I decided to stop being an idealist and start being a realist. Now my thing is, as long as you're helping the people and not breaking any laws, I don't care. If you can see your way to improve your financial situation while you're in office, do that. Just don't make your money while hurting the people that you're supposed to be protecting and helping.

After all, I want my state senator to look like something. I want him to have at least a little wealth. You have to look like something when you start walking into these meetings and conferences and town halls. If you come in there looking like you ain't got nothing, then why would I elect you into office when you ain't doing no better than me? How can I trust you to help the people do better, if you can't even help yourself to do better?

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

In local politics, nobody is complaining about that. That's how "the game" is played. That's why I asked you for your definition of what "the game" means when you mentioned it earlier. Money is in politics. That's just facts. And there's nothing wrong with that. I used to get mad about stupid stuff like that, until I decided to stop being an idealist and start being a realist. Now my thing is, as long as you're helping the people and not breaking any laws, I don't care. If you can see your way to improve your financial situation while you're in office, do that. Just don't make your money while hurting the people that you're supposed to be protecting and helping.

After all, I want my state senator to look like something. I want him to have at least a little wealth. You have to look like something when you start walking into these meetings and conferences and town halls. If you come in there looking like you ain't got nothing, then why would I elect you into office when you ain't doing no better than me? How can I trust you to help the people do better, if you can't even help yourself to do better?

People do complain about it in local politics. Maybe not where you live, but it does happen. I have no problem with it as a favor for a favor, but again it becomes a problem in my mind when one person plays the "you're taking money from lobbyist and the wealthy" when the other person is essentially doing the same thing as well.

 

[xCivicx]

He's calling people's bluffs with that line.

No he's not. Its a bullshyt statement

People have been trying to "change the system" for decades

 

[xCivicx]

(RIP Mr. Russell)

They're just setting black men up to be the scapegoat, as usual

No smoke for other minorities that vote for them less than black men though

 

[RamsayBolton]

I need this dude to get as popular as Kevin Samuels and Andrew Tate then. BothSides is a dumbass republican + Russian plot, though thankfully the only black community I engage with that falls for it is (occasionally) TLR

 

[BarackStar]

You shills are disgusting

 

[North of Death]

He's calling people's bluffs with that line.

Gaining power as a whole starts with money and institutions, not politics...think about the Chinese and Latinos and how they seized power from African American communities..had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with money, businesses, and institutions

 

[CrimsonTider]

You shills are disgusting

What is a Black America agenda?

 

[Easy-E]

Gaining power as a whole starts with money and institutions, not politics...think about the Chinese and Latinos and how they seized power from African American communities..had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with money, businesses, and institutions

Start with the fact that 80 percent of all immigrants came to this country after the 1980's (which wasn't that long ago, I'm 30 something) after a century of immigration legistlation.

shyt, before that, the first explosion of immigration happened because of the Industrial Revolution (aka politics).

Politics created our competition (the white middle class).

Again, you start there. Try to avoid politics all you like and you'll hit a dead end.

 

[North of Death]

Start with the fact that 80 percent of all immigrants came to this country after the 1980's (which wasn't that long ago, I'm 30 something) after a century of immigration legistlation.

shyt, before that, the first explosion of immigration happened because of the Industrial Revolution (aka politics).

Politics created our competition (the white middle class).

Again, you start there. Try to avoid politics all you like and you'll hit a dead end.

Again I asks, what is politics without Money? And you do know the average income and networth of African Americans is at the very bottom of the totem pole...and so is business development that isn't sole proprietors.

 

[get these nets]

Gaining power as a whole starts with money and institutions, not politics...think about the Chinese and Latinos and how they seized power from African American communities..had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with money, businesses, and institutions

Not sure who said that it was either/or scenario.
The facts of the matter are that under Mayor Maynard Jackson, ATL Black middle class expanded and it became a magnet for Black professionals and entrepreneurs, same can be said to an extent about metro DC under early terms of Mayor Marion Barry, expanded in Chicago under Mayor Harold Washington.
Black middle class expanded nationally due to many of the efforts of Cong. Adam Clayton Powell.

Each of these men were groomed under Black organizations and institutions. And they launched political careers and their agitation and decisions lead to the expansion of economic power for their Black constituents.

Unless I misread you, it seems like you were saying that Black people are starting from point zero in 2022, and that institutions and wealth don't exist in the Black community.

 

[Easy-E]

Again I asks, what is politics without Money? And you do know the average income and networth of African Americans is at the very bottom of the totem pole...and so is business development that isn't sole proprietors.

This part of your post I had a problem with.

Money is very important, but, it doesn't give you a voice in politics, it changes your issues.

Because Democrats are still scared shytless that black folk won't give them 95% of our vote...they need it

had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with money, businesses, and institutions