Chris Nolan's next film: Interstellar

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Wait a second

why does Murph get the credit..... Cooper was the one that gave her the info to solve the equation
 

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Wait a second

why does Murph get the credit..... Cooper was the one that gave her the info to solve the equation

Actually it would be TARS that sent the codes that Murphy needed if you want to be technical. But Murphy gets the credit for finding the way to defy gravity and executing it. Hard to give the credit to a ghost.
 

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Told you the movie was fukkin Trash.

Id watch guardians of the galaxy again before this DUD. :camby:

O shyt nolan nolan *jerks* fukkin lames. :camby:
 

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Couple thoughts/questions:
1. What is the true origin of the wormhole? We know that "they" opened it, but who exactly are they? Are they the decendants of the Humans who fled earth for the stars in Cooperstown? Or are they decendants of the OTHER branch of humanity, the humans who decended from the Brand colony? Which of the two groups evolved so far that they could fully manipulate dimensions? Obviously Cooperstown was NOT heading to the planet where Brand landed. If they were, Coop would not have to travel in a ship of his own to go to her. So she and her embryos were abandoned to fate. Did they eventually evolve to the point where they could open a wormhole in the past to guide their distant ancestors onto the path of future human destiny? Were they the ones who created the tesseract for Cooper to find? (Possibly under the directive passed down by Brand, the mother of the species?)
2. I thought of something today. When Coop emerged from the tesseract, he exited from where the wormhole opening had been. Could it be that in the process of sending Coop BACK to the 3rd dimension, the 5th dimensional beings opened a hole in time and space, that simultaneously appeared in the past(Coop before Gargantua), present(Coop after Gargantua) and future (post-Cooperstown) due to the non-linear nature of 5th dimensional time? Basically the effect before the cause. Egg before the chicken. Same way that Coop was able to send those coordinates to himself to set his past self in motion to create the future timeline. So them ejecting Coop from the tesseract created the same wormhole that mysteriously appeared at Saturn (in the past of linear time). It bascially appeared before the event that caused it to be created in the first place.
3. What if the humans from earth eventually encountered those from Brand's colony? Would they believe that they were related? (I am sure the two groups would differ mentally, physically AND technologically. They would basically be alien to each other (due to a lack of communication). That would make for a HELLOVA sci-fi story.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
I've been waiting for Neil to talk about this. He loves critiquing these space movies...













Neil is my dude, but his point about Mars doesn't hold weight. In the movie the human race would be dead within a generation, at best it would take hundreds of years to terraform Mars, the whole point was that they were looking for a planet where they could move the majority of Earth's population to that was already capable of supporting life. Mars wasn't feasible because it doesn't have a breathable atmosphere and people would be dead and gone by the time it did :yeshrug:

They don't solve gravity if Cooper doesn't fall into that black hole, that was needed to get people off the planet in major numbers since fuel costs on getting off this rock goes out the window.
 

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Couple thoughts/questions:
1. What is the true origin of the wormhole? We know that "they" opened it, but who exactly are they? Are they the decendants of the Humans who fled earth for the stars in Cooperstown? Or are they decendants of the OTHER branch of humanity, the humans who decended from the Brand colony? Which of the two groups evolved so far that they could fully manipulate dimensions? Obviously Cooperstown was NOT heading to the planet where Brand landed. If they were, Coop would not have to travel in a ship of his own to go to her. So she and her embryos were abandoned to fate. Did they eventually evolve to the point where they could open a wormhole in the past to guide their distant ancestors onto the path of future human destiny? Were they the ones who created the tesseract for Cooper to find? (Possibly under the directive passed down by Brand, the mother of the species?)
2. I thought of something today. When Coop emerged from the tesseract, he exited from where the wormhole opening had been. Could it be that in the process of sending Coop BACK to the 3rd dimension, the 5th dimensional beings opened a hole in time and space, that simultaneously appeared in the past(Coop before Gargantua), present(Coop after Gargantua) and future (post-Cooperstown) due to the non-linear nature of 5th dimensional time? Basically the effect before the cause. Egg before the chicken. Same way that Coop was able to send those coordinates to himself to set his past self in motion to create the future timeline. So them ejecting Coop from the tesseract created the same wormhole that mysteriously appeared at Saturn (in the past of linear time). It bascially appeared before the event that caused it to be created in the first place.
3. What if the humans from earth eventually encountered those from Brand's colony? Would they believe that they were related? (I am sure the two groups would differ mentally, physically AND technologically. They would basically be alien to each other (due to a lack of communication). That would make for a HELLOVA sci-fi story.

1. The evolution of man and the evolution of technology is what invented and created the wormhole. In reality man is always evolving and our technology is constantly advancing at as of right now a rapid pace, things that even just 10 years ago we could not imagine be possible is what we view as the norm right now. Eventually we will master the mysteries of the universe and soon will manipulate it at our own will. In THIS film in particular, once Murphy figured out the blueprint of defying gravity, which is essentially the element of the 5th dimension it mapped out the beginnings of redefining the universe and the advancement of mankind along the way. "They" = us in such a way that we damn near evolved into Gods.

As for which branch of humanity it is, it's not known, but my best guess it's the colony that Amelia started.

2. Interesting thought. Being that the 5th dimensional beings do not have the concept of linear time because they view the past, present, and future consecutively, it is very well possible that the whole reason why the worm hole was opened was for Cooper to travel forth and back. This is clearly the reason why it was possible for himself to "handshake" Amelia as he was traveling back when they were traveling ahead.

3. Who knows how it would be like, but I best guess it would be best for them to be kept separate. That way, the introduction of racism, prejudice, and bigotry wouldn't interfere and the colony start fresh without any pre-influence of their society.
 

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1. The evolution of man and the evolution of technology is what invented and created the wormhole. In reality man is always evolving and our technology is constantly advancing at as of right now a rapid pace, things that even just 10 years ago we could not imagine be possible is what we view as the norm right now. Eventually we will master the mysteries of the universe and soon will manipulate it at our own will. In THIS film in particular, once Murphy figured out the blueprint of defying gravity, which is essentially the element of the 5th dimension it mapped out the beginnings of redefining the universe and the advancement of mankind along the way. "They" = us in such a way that we damn near evolved into Gods.

As for which branch of humanity it is, it's not known, but my best guess it's the colony that Amelia started.

2. Interesting thought. Being that the 5th dimensional beings do not have the concept of linear time because they view the past, present, and future consecutively, it is very well possible that the whole reason why the worm hole was opened was for Cooper to travel forth and back. This is clearly the reason why it was possible for himself to "handshake" Amelia as he was traveling back when they were traveling ahead.

3. Who knows how it would be like, but I best guess it would be best for them to be kept separate. That way, the introduction of racism, prejudice, and bigotry wouldn't interfere and the colony start fresh without any pre-influence of their society.
Great points man. I think this is what a lot of people are missign out on when it comes to this movie. It gave us concepts to wonder about. It expanded our minds.
 

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saw it yesterday and it was dope overall, only major problem I had (besides the "love conquers all" horseshyt) was the tesseract scene

why did he try the book method to get his past self to stay, did he totally forget that it didn't work?

also if he really wanted to change the past he should've done nothing while he was in there, the only reason why he ended up on the mission in the first place was cause of that "gravity" message he sent during the dust storm

ending bothered me too, *finally meets his 90 year old daughter* "hey you missed my entire life but don't bother trying to catch up or get to know the rest of your family, go steal a ship and check up on anne hathaway who should be about 120 years old now :mindblown:
 

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summary of OG script from reddit. Some of it sounds way more interesting IMO


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As much as I liked Interstellar, what you posted here makes more sense as a plot and is overall just a better movie, with the exception of the ending.
 
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