Chris Nolan's next film: Interstellar

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Word. They really should have just included aliens without trying to make it super heartfelt. It would've explained so much more and solved the major plot holes.
Aliens are too predictable and cliche. This ain't CONTACT.
Having us as the aliens or the evolved beings was more suitable. And it makes more sense. Why would some nonhuman species want to send a wormhole for our survival of humanity?? Why would they give two fukks? It had to be humans.
 

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Yeah I caught that but I think Nolan did that to show it more from Matthew's perspective. He didn't go all the way with the explanation but it still left more questions like how are we multiple dimensional beings in the future. Who/What made that possible? There was definitely a spiritual/religious component going on.
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This is not a spiritual/religious movie!!!!!

The executive producer is Kip Thorne whose research the movie is based off!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_Thorne
 

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Aliens are too predictable and cliche. This ain't CONTACT.
Having us as the aliens or the evolved beings was more suitable. And it makes more sense. Why would some nonhuman species want to send a wormhole for our survival of humanity?? Why would they give two fukks? It had to be humans.

because there intention was not to help us

It was to find some intelligent species to come help the aliens whose planted was dying also....thats why Coop kept saying 'why would they create a wormhole"

In the script...Coop laughs when he sees the alien sample he brought back to earth is flourishing in the earth that humans left behind because he realizes we helped them thinking we were helping ourselves
 

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This is not a spiritual/religious movie!!!!!

The executive producer is Kip Thorne whose research the movie is based off!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_Thorne

It's not 100% a spiritual/religious movie but there are themes there. The main theme of the film was "Love". I know about Kip but even Nolan said some of the things he explained didn't translate well on film and they had to change things.
 

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I cant buy that explanation cause its a cop out.. The whole film tried to be very literal and offer scientific explanations no matter how ridiculous it started to get and then at the end your supposed to just buy into some sort of ambiguous fantasy that goes against the spirit of the film? Naw. Its a giant plot hole.
You DO know time altering and paradoxes are scientific theories right????
 

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Aliens are too predictable and cliche. This ain't CONTACT.
Having us as the aliens or the evolved beings was more suitable. And it makes more sense. Why would some nonhuman species want to send a wormhole for our survival of humanity?? Why would they give two fukks? It had to be humans.


Its not cliche if its done with some imagination....the general public wanted this to be Contact 2.0 but with aliens....Contact was a great movie all the way to the end
 

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Aliens are too predictable and cliche. This ain't CONTACT.
Having us as the aliens or the evolved beings was more suitable. And it makes more sense. Why would some nonhuman species want to send a wormhole for our survival of humanity?? Why would they give two fukks? It had to be humans.

Thank You. That's all I'm saying. It was a new way to look at it. Cause how many times in a movie is it Aliens or God. At least he tried to tell it in a different way. And that doesn't mean God or Aliens aren't involved as I said, how do we know how we became multi-dimensional beings.
 

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Yeah I caught that but I think Nolan did that to show it more from Matthew's perspective. He didn't go all the way with the explanation but it still left more questions like how are we multiple dimensional beings in the future. Who/What made that possible? There was definitely a spiritual/religious component going on.

I think Nolans inability to decide whether to go the fantasy route or scientific route is the difference between it being really good or great. Had he committed to the fantasy route then he could have used aliens or whatever and not needed to explain shyt. Had he committed to the scientific route like the whole movie up to that point then there is no way Mathew makes it back alive even if he saves earth. I would have been cool with that.
 

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because there intention was not to help us

It was to find some intelligent species to come help the aliens whose planted was dying also....thats why Coop kept saying 'why would they create a wormhole"

In the script...Coop laughs when he sees the alien sample he brought back to earth is flourishing in the earth that humans left behind because he realizes we helped them thinking we were helping ourselves
It was BRAND's intention not to save humanity on Earth. His only agenda was to find another planet to repopulate it. Cooper wasn't supposed to know NASA still existed. It was "THEY" (himself) to signal the coordinates. But "THEY" were the ones that placed him in the tesserect to begin with.

Aliens being behind it makes no sense. Humans striving to save their own existence thus creating a time paradox in the process is intriguing.
 

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I think Nolans inability to decide whether to go the fantasy route or scientific route is the difference between it being really good or great. Had he committed to the fantasy route then he could have used aliens or whatever and not needed to explain shyt. Had he committed to the scientific route like the whole movie up to that point then their is no way Mathew makes it back alive even if he saves earth. I would have been cool that.

Good point. I think Steven would of been more decisive in that department. I think Nolan's obsession with keeping everything "Grounded" in reality might of hurt him in making that decision. It's like the film almost went "Fantasy/Alien" level but he then went back to "Realism" at the last minute but the realism doesn't feel real at all, it feels Fantasy. I agree with people that maybe God/Aliens would of been a better explanation but I don't fault Nolan for switching it up. As far as Matthew's Fate:

I would of been fine with him Dying in the Blackhole, that felt more realistic than that magical Spielberian Ending where he reunites with his daughter. Remember he told her "Maybe when I come back we will be the same age" but when he saw her she was older. That was Steven all day. Again it was a happy ending.
 

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It was BRAND's intention not to save humanity on Earth. His only agenda was to find another planet to repopulate it. Cooper wasn't supposed to know NASA still existed. It was "THEY" (himself) to signal the coordinates. But "THEY" were the ones that placed him in the tesserect to begin with.

Aliens being behind it makes no sense. Humans striving to save their own existence thus creating a time paradox in the process is intriguing.


1. If the "evolved" humans made it off earth and human life depended on Cooper finding the worm-hole the evolved humans created. How did the evolved human make it off earth?

2. Aliens do make sense....
 

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Good point. I think Steven would of been more decisive in that department. I think Nolan's obsession with keeping everything "Grounded" in reality might of hurt him in making that decision. It's like the film almost went "Fantasy/Alien" level but he then went back to "Realism" at the last minute but the realism doesn't feel real at all, it feels Fantasy. I agree with people that maybe God/Aliens would of been a better explanation but I don't fault Nolan for switching it up. As far as Matthew's Fate:

I would of been fine with him Dying in the Blackhole, that felt more realistic than that magical Spielberian Ending where he reunites with his daughter. Remember he told her "Maybe when I come back we will be the same age" but when he saw her she was older. That was Steven all day. Again it was a happy ending.
That was the chief complaint they had about The Prestige that everything was a period piece based on realism until the supernatural was introduced.

He's my thing. We are too adapted or conditioned to SCIENCE FANTASY and not SCIENCE FICTION. Most science fiction tales, novels, movies, and so forth always is based on hard science but includes the probability of the unexplained.
Science Fantasy is where it's all Star Wars and no scientific logic is made. In this movie world where Marvel and Hunger Games, and The Hobbit rule in fantasy, a film like this would be conflicting. Because it's hard to accept the fiction in "science fiction"
 

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1. If the "evolved" humans made it off earth and human life depended on Cooper finding the worm-hole the evolved humans created. How did the evolved human make it off earth?

2. Aliens do make sense....
It's called ambiguity. In time travel, paradoxes are created.
But you CAN say that the colony that BRAND's DAUGHTER created were the ones that done it.
 

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I would of liked it better if Matthew:

When he was at Cooper Station on Saturn, when he stole the ship to see Brands Daughter 80 years later if they would of showed the human colony. Instead they flashed back to the past when she was just getting started.
 
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