China warns Taiwan that the US will abandon it like Afghanistan

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China will fukk the dogshyt outta Taiwan once war breaks out... That's a fact. A war against China won't be so much boots on the ground, but technological. But regardless it will be brutal.

If they haven't already armed themselves with hella nukes and hydrogen bombs all aimed at China then they must not value their existence..

China is just a technological Taliban..:hhh:
 

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China needs to go to hell..


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China’s business operations in Africa may have a human rights problem
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Chinese banks and companies have funded and built projects worth billions in the continent.
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China is striving for global leadership, and has the economic clout to realize its vision.

By Carlos Mureithi

East Africa correspondent

Published August 18, 2021
As Chinese companies continue to venture abroad, there are more and more reported cases of human rights violations by the businesses, with a significant number in Africa, according to a new report.

According to the Business & Human Rights Resource Centre, a London-based nonprofit, Africa has the second highest number of allegations of human rights abuses, with 26.7% of the claims recorded against Chinese companies operating abroad from 2013 to 2020. Asia-Pacific has the most with 39.6% and Asia the third-highest with 26%, the report says, describing the three regions as “high-risk.”


The center looked at human rights abuse allegations linked to Chinese business conduct abroad during this period. Its sources included local and international nonprofits, and media reports. Researchers found 679 allegations, and managed to get 102 company responses.

Most countries in the Belt and Road Initiative are African
Africa is a significant part of China’s Belt and Road Initiative, an infrastructure development strategy to invest in other countries and international organizations. Most of the countries participating in the initiative are African. Chinese banks and companies have funded and built railways, roads, ports and other projects worth billions in Africa. But some of the initiatives have been marred by accusations of discrimination and abuse of local people by Chinese companies.

Still, over the years, China has tried to implement numerous safeguarding policies for its international ventures.

According to the report, the allegations of human rights abuses in Africa were mainly related to the metals and mining, energy, construction, finance and banking, renewable energy, and food, agriculture, and livestock sectors.

The most frequent issues, the report said, were connected to “loss of livelihood, inadequate disclosure and EIA (environmental impact assessment) and labor issues.”

In general, Kenya, Uganda, Zimbabwe and the Democratic Republic of the Congo were the countries where abuses were most frequently recorded. One reason, the report said, is public focus on controversial energy and infrastructure projects, and the significant presence of Chinese mining companies.

Few companies responded to the allegations of human rights abuse
Only 24% of the Chinese companies accused of human rights violations responded to the allegations, the report said. Most of them, it added, referred to their commitments local laws rather than international laws, a situation that the report says may be problematic, particularly for host countries that have weakly written or enforced laws.

The report suggests a number of measures to address the human rights issues. The researchers said Chinese companies should:

  • “Develop and implement strong institutional policies on transparency and disclosure”
  • “Continuously identify and assess actual and potential human rights and environmental risks prior to beginning a project”
  • “Establish effective operational-level, non-judicial grievance mechanisms”
“Given the challenges illustrated in this report, there are great opportunities for companies, business associations, the governments of China and countries hosting investments to further strengthen the regulatory environment and its implementation by Chinese companies operating overseas,” the report adds.

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Yea… the US just gonna give up any leverage (Taiwan) in the pacific Asia zone….not happening…..


WHY YALL THINK WE PULLED OUT OF AFGHANISTAN…… TO DEAL WITH CHINA (if needed)…..


Economic reasons alone won’t allow the US to bail on Taiwan, maybe alliance build, but not bail….


Economic ramifications would be too serious to let that region go…. The us would tap on Japan to support bout instantly, and Japan would likely join
 

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America has protected Taiwan for over 70 years and it has way more importance to the United States than Afghanistan. :unimpressed:
You know this and I know this…. But why these posters think Afghanistan and Taiwan mean the same thing to the US…..


half they shyt is made in TAIWAN….. what does Afghanistan produce for us, cuz it ain’t oil and poppy ain’t poppin like that…. We was there for emotional sake…. Not dollars
 
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Economic reasons alone won’t allow the US to bail on Taiwan, maybe alliance build, but not bail….


Economic ramifications would be too serious to let that region go…. The us would tap on Japan to support bout instantly, and Japan would likely join

US's economy would literally tank if they bailed on Taiwan anytime in the near future; 10-20 years. They are too tied at the hip to bail. They're another Israel, except Taiwan actually produces things for the U.S.

On the converse, China is not invading Taiwan either. It's posturing. They can't do it without taking significant losses. Taiwan is harder to attack Geographically than many people realize, and Taiwan would literally burn the island to the ground once China was able to invade. You can only invade Taiwan for a limited period of time during the year. China however is waiting for the U.S. to have a Thor: Ragnarok moment. January 6th could've been that. If there is something similar to January 6th for the 2024 election, than it wouldn't surprise me if they pull something shortly after...However, the U.S. would still be committed to supporting them.

If Taiwan gets attacked, Japan, South Korea have already committed to supporting militarily and most likely Australia and India would jump into that conflict.

China could play that if they want to, but it doesn't make sense to do it in the immediate, they do not have enough power to lead a successful campaign on the island without landing a pyrrhic victory.

 

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US's economy would literally tank if they bailed on Taiwan anytime in the near future; 10-20 years. They are too tied at the hip to bail. They're another Israel, except Taiwan actually produces things for the U.S.

On the converse, China is not invading Taiwan either. It's posturing. They can't do it without taking significant losses. Taiwan is harder to attack Geographically than many people realize, and Taiwan would literally burn the island to the ground once China was able to invade. You can only invade Taiwan for a limited period of time during the year. China however is waiting for the U.S. to have a Thor: Ragnarok moment. January 6th could've been that. If there is something similar to January 6th for the 2024 election, than it wouldn't surprise me if they pull something shortly after...However, the U.S. would still be committed to supporting them.

If Taiwan gets attacked, Japan, South Korea have already committed to supporting militarily and most likely Australia and India would jump into that conflict.

China could play that if they want to, but it doesn't make sense to do it in the immediate, they do not have enough power to lead a successful campaign on the island without landing a pyrrhic victory.


Wow, see i didn’t know they already committed….I just follow the money trail. Plus no way Japan would want China with that kind of unilateral power alone in the region…..

And you’re right about the posturing, because Beijing just authorized, I think, Black Rock capital to handle a lot of their personal finance and equity accounts throughout the region…. So financially they’ve gotten into bed HEAVY with the US….. I just don’t see how they pull the trigger on attacking Taiwan after all that
 

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Wow, see i didn’t know they already committed….I just follow the money trail. Plus no way Japan would want China with that kind of unilateral power alone in the region…..

And you’re right about the posturing, because Beijing just authorized, I think, Black Rock capital to handle a lot of their personal finance and equity accounts throughout the region…. So financially they’ve gotten into bed HEAVY with the US….. I just don’t see how they pull the trigger on attacking Taiwan after all that

Informally Japan has and I may have mis-spoken on South Korea. But no country wants China to have control of the South China sea.

China has several pressures weighing on them. Their economy is slowing down, and they have to manipulate the value of their currency to make other countries continue to use China as the factory of the world. No one will want to keep their factories there if you have to pay the same price for TCL that you do for pay for a Samsung. Internal pressures from the demographic bomb and authoritianism won't be as effective on their populace if their standard of living starts to decline, they could devolve into a civil war again because no one is going for all the cultural restrictions AND a lower class of living. So they kinda have to put pressure on Taiwan in hopes that one day they can reclaim that island to not only control the south China Sea and control trade through it (literally the busiest waterway in the world), but all of the complex manufacturing that Taiwan has; TSMC for instance.

I think the most likely scenario is, China will create a disinformation campaign to put a Chinese puppet in place who will eventually reintegrate Taiwan back into China. OR the off chance that the U.S. continues down the slow descent into social disorder where they can't effectively respond to China doing something to Taiwan, in an extremely slow and protracted skirmish.
 
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