Chigozi Obioma: There are no successful black nations

[Bonk]

Whooaaa, hold the fukk up. Angola has one of GOAT militaries in SSA. It certainly was instrumental for a lot of liberation fights outside of the country. Our Air Force is .

Let's not get carried away by defeatist views about Africa as a continent. 56 countries, there's a lot of shyt happening that people don't know about.

Angola is still a relatively young country that just got out of a civil war two decades ago. The country can't even defend itself from external aggression and the US wouldn't even need boots on the ground to destroy Angola. And poverty is still very rife there. So what are you talking about?

 

[BlackJesus]

No wonder ur in the red

For telling the truth. Lots of people on this forum don't like the truth lol.

 

[Claudex]

Angola is still a relatively young country that just got out of a civil war two decades ago. The country can't even defend itself from external aggression and the US wouldn't even need boots on the ground to destroy Angola. And poverty is still very rife there. So what are you talking about?

I'm talking about the fact that the US was behind the 30 year old civil war and they bet on the wrong guy, and lost. I'm talking about how our military is an example, not necessarily in size and strength but in discipline and force of will.

I'm talking about how you clearly don't know much about our military or the history surrounding it. So please refrain from speaking about it like you actually know what you're talking about.


And lol at we can't defend ourselves form external aggression. I guess the reason we haven't succumbed to external forces (i.e. the United States of America) is because external forces are so benevolent.

 

[BlackJesus]

Angola is still a relatively young country that just got out of a civil war two decades ago. The country can't even defend itself from external aggression and the US wouldn't even need boots on the ground to destroy Angola. And poverty is still very rife there. So what are you talking about?

Can New Zealand or any of these D-league white countries defend themselves from China? Most "white" countries just rely on the subsidy and protection of the US Military. Only the US and Russia are really about the shyt. Maybe throw the UK in there. It takes a lot to have a top notch military.

The criteria the author was talking about was economic success. There are successful black countries out there that fulfill that criteria. Military is a whole nother issue.

 

[Bonk]

I'm talking about the fact that the US was behind the 30 year old civil war and they bet on the wrong guy, and lost. I'm talking about how our military is an example, not necessarily in size and strength but in discipline and force of will.

I'm talking about how you clearly don't know much about our military or the history surrounding it. So please refrain from speaking about it like you actually know what you're talking about.


And lol at we can't defend ourselves form external aggression. I guess the reason we haven't succumbed to external forces (i.e. the United States of America) is because external forces are so benevolent.

I'm acquainted with Angolan history and the role the US played with Savimbi and apartheid South Africa. However, the Cubans were the warriors, not Angolans. Your military isn't that strong and you can defend yourself against external aggression. The countries surrounding you don't even have strong military if that's what you're grading your country against. I'm sure you saw what happened to Libya.

 

[Cadillac]

For telling the truth. Lots of people on this forum don't like the truth lol.

Black men can pull tons of women. Especially with the condition we are in where alot of us don't have money and power


Not sure about that latter point. But be don't wench as much as asian women

 

[Cadillac]

There are successful black nations now. Chigozie Obioma is a disgrace.

This one of those threads where coli nikkas get on there high horse and talk down on blacks etc.

 

[Claudex]

I'm acquainted with Angolan history and the role the US played with Savimbi and apartheid South Africa. However, the Cubans were the warriors, not Angolans. Your military isn't that strong and you can defend yourself against external aggression. The countries surrounding you don't even have strong military if that's what you're grading your country against. I'm sure you saw what happened to Libya.

I'm not gonna mince words breh. This is the the highest form of c00nery I've witnessed against my country 'til now in this whole forum.

So a bunch of Cubans came for aid and they're the warriors while millions of Angolans died in crazy missions fighting a 30 year old war right after a hard fight for independence.

We fought, hard enough to be able to invite the cubans over; 'cause they weren't with us in day one...but you'd rather give the W to cubans.

fukk you breh.

 

[Master Teacher]

Lmao at thinking power gets you p*ssy lmao most powerful men are dumps and tricks if you have to use your power to get hoes you weren't getting hoes in the first place
Y'all weak as fukk nigaaz been eating off all types of hoes for centuries

 

[BlackJesus]

Black men can pull tons of women. Especially with the condition we are in where alot of us don't have money and power


Not sure about that latter point. But be don't wench as much as asian women

Not saying black dudes don't pull women. It's just not as easy for us as it is for white guys. Nor is the quality of women we get all that good. I've seen even bum looking white dudes with better looking girls than a lot of black dudes.

Like I said black men are not exactly at the bottom of the totem pole, but we definitely are not at the top either.

 

[Bonk]

I'm not gonna mince words breh. This is the the highest form of c00nery I've witnessed against my country 'til now in this whole forum.

So a bunch of Cubans came for aid and they're the warriors while millions of Angolans died in crazy missions fighting a 30 year old war right after a hard fight for independence.

We fought, hard enough to be able to invite the cubans over; 'cause they weren't with us in day one...but you'd rather give the W to cubans.

fukk you breh.

No beef, breh. I just stated facts. Without the Cubans, Angolans would have lost that war. Or do you think you would've won by yourself against the US backed Savimbi and apartheid South Africa? The soviets backed you from the beginning and they failed miserably, until the Cubans came.

Look at all the defining battles and if not for the Cuban armoured and motorised units - they would've run over y'all.

Not taking anything away from the brave Angolans but your country isn't as strong as you think it's.

 

[ZoeGod]

I'm not gonna mince words breh. This is the the highest form of c00nery I've witnessed against my country 'til now in this whole forum.

So a bunch of Cubans came for aid and they're the warriors while millions of Angolans died in crazy missions fighting a 30 year old war right after a hard fight for independence.

We fought, hard enough to be able to invite the cubans over; 'cause they weren't with us in day one...but you'd rather give the W to cubans.

fukk you breh.

Castro was the GOAT for aiding Angola against South Africa and the US. But ya'll gave apartheid South Africa that work.

 

[Claudex]

No beef, breh. I just stated facts. Without the Cubans, Angolans would have lost that war. Or do you think you would've won by yourself against the US backed Savimbi and apartheid South Africa? The soviets backed you from the beginning and they failed miserably, until the Cubans came.

Look at all the defining battles and if not for the Cuban armoured and motorised units - they would've run over y'all.

Not taking anything away from the brave Angolans but your country isn't as strong as you think it's.

Without the Cubans we would've hired somebody else to do what needed to be done point blank period. End of discussion!

And woe is you if you think the Cubans did what they did with (not for but with) us for fukking free.

And whatever the hell you mean by "the soviets failed". They supplied us with weapons (which again were paid for; not fukking free) that the Cubans used to do what they did. Israel helped us too, in case you didn't know. But you're not gonna see me hail them as our fukking heroes. Because they got payed!

I see the point you're trying to make, but I'm telling you it's a stupid/moot point because we as a people made sacrifices beyond just the death of our men to secure what we have today. And that shyt was done for us by us. We received no charity from anyone ever, except from God/Chance that allowed us to have this many resources in our soil. Resources that were used to pay whoever "aided" us. So excuse me if I don't hail paid countries as heroes of OUR cause.

Bottom line: our country is as strong as what our resources can get us. It's how we've gotten to the stage we got today. Or do you think China fukks with us because they're benevolent too?

 

[Claudex]

Castro was the GOAT for aiding Angola against South Africa and the US. But ya'll gave apartheid South Africa that work.

That was the goal at the time, Castro saw the end game.

We get the know-how from several sources, including the Cubans that were willing to join us on soil as opposed to the many other countries that aided us. And then we'd use that know-how to export independence into the nearby African countries. Through direct actions and several Black Ops throughout SSA.

I'm not ungrateful, shout out to Castro indeed.

 

[Absalom's Thought]

I honestly don't think people understand what success in terms of countries entails. The fact that people are mentioning Caribbean countries that are still subject to the British crown and are heavily dependent on tourism and a tiny landlocked African country that's heavily dependent on South Africa, just shows the quality of education some people had. None of these countries can even make toothbrush and they can't defend themselves against the smallest external aggression. So how are they a success story?

You have to at least have a say among committee of nations and be powerful enough to defend yourself, apart from having a functioning country, to be labelled a success story. And no black country is even close to that.

Right, hence my apprehension regarding pushes towards separatism inside Nigeria.

I said it before, despite its many inadequacies its the closest thing we have to a regional black power.