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[LionofJudah]

Again, stop waffling.

You believe in the God of Israel as described in the Bible, correct?

You believe that Black Americans are descended from one of the tribes of Israel (Judah) correct?

We can prove the existence of an ancient kingdom called Israel without having to use the Bible. So I'm asking you if you can prove that you are a descendant of Judah without having to reference the Bible. Can you do that or not? Don't answer questions with questions. If you can't do it just say it's matter of faith and what you BELIEVE to be true and I'll accept that....but don't sit up here and talk about proof when you have none.

You're asking a dumb question. How can I PROVE I'm a descendant of Judah (which is a tribe of Israel FROM THE BIBLE) without using the Bible? We wouldn't know about the tribe of Judah if not for the Bible. A person could live in Israel today, and not be an Israelite. Again, we're not talking about citizenship. If I went to Israel today, I wouldn't be considered a citizen, but that wouldn't mean I'm not from the tribe of Judah. Stop being ignorant.

 

[LionofJudah]

Not to mention, why would I NOT be able to use the Bible? That's like saying, prove these people are your parents, but don't bring up your birth certificate.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

You're asking a dumb question. How can I PROVE I'm a descendant of Judah (which is a tribe of Israel FROM THE BIBLE) without using the Bible? We wouldn't know about the tribe of Judah if not for the Bible. A person could live in Israel today, and not be an Israelite. Again, we're not talking about citizenship. If I went to Israel today, I wouldn't be considered a citizen, but that wouldn't mean I'm not from the tribe of Judah. Stop being ignorant.

The sources for the history of ancient Israel and Judah can be broadly divided into the biblical narrative (the Hebrew Bible,Deuterocanonical and non-biblical works for the later period) and the archaeological record. The latter can again be divided between epigraphy (written inscriptions, both from Israel and other lands including Mesopotamia and Egypt) and the material record (everything else).

History of ancient Israel and Judah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So no, we don't need the Bible to verify that Kingdom of Israel did in fact exist. You believe that you are an Israelite as a matter of faith, not a matter of FACT. Sorry.

 

[LionofJudah]

The sources for the history of ancient Israel and Judah can be broadly divided into the biblical narrative (the Hebrew Bible,Deuterocanonical and non-biblical works for the later period) and the archaeological record. The latter can again be divided between epigraphy (written inscriptions, both from Israel and other lands including Mesopotamia and Egypt) and the material record (everything else).
History of ancient Israel and Judah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So no, we don't need the Bible to verify that Kingdom of Israel did in fact exist. You believe that you are an Israelite as a matter of faith, not a matter of FACT. Sorry.

How stupid are you exactly? First you tell me to 'prove' I'm an Israelite (not using the Bible no less), then you want me to 'prove' that the Kingdom of Israel existed (when you JUST posted a Wikipedia page that talks about-the KINGDOM OF ISRAEL)? fukk outta here...when you have something sincere you want to know, then hit me up. Otherwise, please shut the fukk up.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

How stupid are you exactly? First you tell me to 'prove' I'm an Israelite (not using the Bible no less), then you want me to 'prove' that the Kingdom of Israel existed? fukk outta here...when you have something sincere you want to know, then hit me up., Otherwise, please shut the fukk up.

I didn't ask you to prove Israel existed, because we DONT NEED THE BIBLE to verify that since there are sources independent of the Bible that can confirm that.

I'm asking you for independent sources that will back up your claims linking "negroes in america" to Israel. You are the one running your mouth about proof, not me. Your interpretation of what the Bible says doesn't qualify as "proof." Speculation is not proof.

You've already admitted that you can't prove you are an Israelite without using the Bible though, so I guess that's progress

 

[LionofJudah]

I didn't ask you to prove Israel existed, because we DONT NEED THE BIBLE to verify that since there are sources independent of the Bible that can confirm that.

I'm asking you for independent sources that will back up your claims linking "negroes in america" to Israel. You are the one running your mouth about proof, not me. Your interpretation of what the Bible says doesn't qualify as "proof." Speculation is not proof.

You've already admitted that you can't prove you are an Israelite without using the Bible though, so I guess that's progress

The Bible speaks for itself. Why would I need an 'independent source' to prove something that you're telling me I can't prove with the 'main source' that started the conversation to begin with? That's not logic, that's stupidity.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

The Bible speaks for itself. Why would I need an 'independent source' to prove something that you're telling me I can't prove with the 'main source' that started the conversation to begin with? That's not logic, that's stupidity.

There are religious scriptures that pre-date the Bible by thousands of years. If you're going to play that game the Bible isn't the source of anything.

 

[LionofJudah]

There are religious scriptures that pre-date the Bible by thousands of years. If you're going to play that game the Bible isn't the source of anything.

According to you. Now let me ask you-what is your race and nationality?

 

[GetInTheTruck]

According to you. Now let me ask you-what is your race and nationality?

I'm east indian.

but what exactly are you disputing here. do you really think the bible is the oldest religious scripture?

 

[LionofJudah]

I'm east indian.

Oh, you're finished.

but what exactly are you disputing here. do you really think the bible is the oldest religious scripture?

I don't care if it is or if it isn't. I don't follow other 'religious scripture'.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Oh, you're finished.

No, you.

I don't care if it is or if it isn't. I don't follow other 'religious scripture'.

So what is the Bible the "main source" of?

 

[LionofJudah]

No, you.




So what is the Bible the "main source" of?

The Bible is the Laws, Statutes, and Commandments given to the children of Israel ONLY.

 

[p00rky]

What made you post this? I read this on reddit awhile ago...

 

[p00rky]

According to you. Now let me ask you-what is your race and nationality?

 

[Kritic]

Ummm...please tell me what an 'Israelite' is.

i know what an israelite is.

an black israelite is exactly what these black indians are... people who hate anything associated with being black or negro. and so long as y'all can read some bullsh1t and brainwash you're selves you're something you're not then it feels right. but no matter how much you brainwash you're selves you are "israelites" you'll never be. at best the "real" israelites will use you to fight their wars to kill palestinians and arabs. that's the best that could happen to you. and is happening right now. brothers getting onto planes going to fight wars they don't understand in the name of "i'm fighting for my country". no nucca. you ain't fighting for you're country.. you're really just being paid to fight for jews who really hate you anyway cause they really don't even like black ppl over there.

y'all can call your selves whatever the fuq you wanna call yourselves. indian, israelites, euros, chinese, "mixed"... but them other ppl are just laughing at y'all. and just like these cherokees kicked them niccas out there their land it's the same thing that would happen to y'all where ever you think you're holly land is.

i have one dumb ass nucca in my facebook (who i don't speak too) but i've met personally a number of times. he's a nice dude. but his facebook posts scare me. he talks all this nonsense how he's a jew and israelites. infact he even makes posts of how he's "NOT AFRICAN AMERICAN". that he's a Hebrew. This really scares me. It scares me because he's a mentor in my community probably feeding this same bullsh1t to young black kids.