OnlyOneBoss
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I been saying this for a min, the intelligence gap is gonna be huge in the future and extremely noticeable. You can see it now with the rise of Anti- intellectualism and the dismissal of deep thinking.
ChatGPT Brings Down Online Education Stocks. Chegg Loses 95%. Students Don’t Need It Anymore
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I been saying this for a min, the intelligence gap is gonna be huge in the future and extremely noticeable. You can see it now with the rise of Anti- intellectualism and the dismissal of deep thinking.
fukk chegg
$1.90
That is a nasty drop.
And with newer generations of students coming into college without ever seeing a college text book in their life, it’s lights out for Chegg unless they get swallowed up or strictly get into the ebook game.
Wild that 5 years ago during the height of CoronaMania they were at $113 (their ATH) in February 2021 then $31 in November 2021 — and never recovered since the price kept bottoming out.
Probably sat on their asses during Covid and figured the pandemic would last a lot longer and those rental orders would fly off the shelves.
Exactly. I've been saying since smartphones came out that by the time I'm a senior citizen, those of us who were in the last generations to grow up without them are going to seem like gods among men. ChatGPT and whatever comes next is only going to make that worse.
I'm jealous af of yall youngins who get to go thru college with this shyt available at your fingertips.
YouTube had just come out in my college days
At this point You got ZERO excuses to be failing any class
Why not just send a check to Phoenix University if that's all you want to get out of college?
Too bad he didn't survive to see this thread:
1/11
@tsarnick
Ethan Mollick says students don't raise their hands in class as much because they don't want to expose their ignorance when AI can answer their questions, and the use of AI is leading to the illusion of competence and lower test scores
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1847075142259843072/pu/vid/avc1/720x720/_oFx1B48TzMws-1F.mp4
2/11
@tsarnick
Source (thanks to @curiousgangsta):
https://invidious.poast.org/watch?v=xvxPFH16Bvg
3/11
@emollick
he research I was referring to.
[Quoted tweet]
AI can help learning... when it isn't a crutch.
There are now multiple controlled experiments showing that students who use AI to get answers to problems hurts learning (even though they think they are learning), but that students who use AI as a tutor perform better on tests.
4/11
@tsarnick
interesting, thanks for the extra context!
5/11
@joehenriod
I had a teacher when I was in high school that bribed me to always raise my hand and ask really stupid questions before everyone else.
It set the bar for participation as really low, because everyone knew they could AT LEAST contribute something better than I did.
6/11
@tsarnick
7/11
@BobbyGRG
Not sure that asking AI for questions wouldn't provide learning. Students might need though to learn how to ask AI to learn the most. A (good) human teacher will try to double check and make sure that students understood. An AI will just provide an explanation and unless re-prompted to extend or explain otherwise that would be it. Easily improvable with an application wrapper instructed to do similar. Did that wrapper cot app for my kids like in april 2023... now they use chatpgt directly using the right patterns, verification, etc. to activate their learning. That what students need to learn...
8/11
@CallumMacClark
Teachers and lecturers can try all they want to ban this technology but it's not going anywhere. I applaud the students who are using this. also interesting to think that these students are learning how to interact with LLM's not through courses but through usage.
9/11
@ravisyal
Easy access to great teachers will lead to increased learning.
10/11
@Chris_Brannigan
An ai tutor would ask the student follow up questions, give the option of worked examples and other methods to embed / check learning
11/11
@AntDX316
I find with AI that when you keep seeing what is needed in a program, you get used to sticking to what works, which is a good thing as it's constant training with the very best.
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
@tsarnick
Ethan Mollick says students don't raise their hands in class as much because they don't want to expose their ignorance when AI can answer their questions, and the use of AI is leading to the illusion of competence and lower test scores
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1847075142259843072/pu/vid/avc1/720x720/_oFx1B48TzMws-1F.mp4
2/11
@tsarnick
Source (thanks to @curiousgangsta):
https://invidious.poast.org/watch?v=xvxPFH16Bvg
3/11
@emollick
he research I was referring to.
[Quoted tweet]
AI can help learning... when it isn't a crutch.
There are now multiple controlled experiments showing that students who use AI to get answers to problems hurts learning (even though they think they are learning), but that students who use AI as a tutor perform better on tests.
4/11
@tsarnick
interesting, thanks for the extra context!
5/11
@joehenriod
I had a teacher when I was in high school that bribed me to always raise my hand and ask really stupid questions before everyone else.
It set the bar for participation as really low, because everyone knew they could AT LEAST contribute something better than I did.
6/11
@tsarnick
7/11
@BobbyGRG
Not sure that asking AI for questions wouldn't provide learning. Students might need though to learn how to ask AI to learn the most. A (good) human teacher will try to double check and make sure that students understood. An AI will just provide an explanation and unless re-prompted to extend or explain otherwise that would be it. Easily improvable with an application wrapper instructed to do similar. Did that wrapper cot app for my kids like in april 2023... now they use chatpgt directly using the right patterns, verification, etc. to activate their learning. That what students need to learn...
8/11
@CallumMacClark
Teachers and lecturers can try all they want to ban this technology but it's not going anywhere. I applaud the students who are using this. also interesting to think that these students are learning how to interact with LLM's not through courses but through usage.
9/11
@ravisyal
Easy access to great teachers will lead to increased learning.
10/11
@Chris_Brannigan
An ai tutor would ask the student follow up questions, give the option of worked examples and other methods to embed / check learning
11/11
@AntDX316
I find with AI that when you keep seeing what is needed in a program, you get used to sticking to what works, which is a good thing as it's constant training with the very best.
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
1/51
@awilkinson
Just watched my 5-year-old son chat with ChatGPT advanced voice mode for over 45 minutes.
It started with a question about how cars were made.
It explained it in a way that he could understand.
He started peppering it with questions.
Then he told it about his teacher, and that he was learning to count.
ChatGPT started quizzing him on counting, and egging him on, making it into a game.
He was laughing and having a blast, and it (obviously) never lost patience with him.
I think this is going to be revolutionary. The essentially free, infinitely patient, super genius teacher that calibrates itself perfectly to your kid's learning style and pace.
Excited about the future.
2/51
@grantosan
Guarantee your son would prefer to have that conversation with you. He’ll remember it and you’ll regret ceding this part of your life to AI.
3/51
@awilkinson
Of course, but I'm not ALWAYS around. I work, I do chores, he goes to school. This is 10,000x better than any episode of Sesame Street.
4/51
@PTrubey
I suspect kids like robots better than humans as teachers because there’s no judgment coming from a robot. There’s no emotional reproof when you get something wrong or struggle with something.
5/51
@LastCoinStandng
This can replace The Department of "Education".
6/51
@gregisenberg
95% excited, 5% frightened
7/51
@WholeMarsBlog
I just hope it raises our children well
8/51
@YoshiJoshi_
The day my kid runs to ask chatGPT the answer to something, and not me, will be a sad day.
Nothing I enjoy more than answering the constant stream of “whys” my three year old comes out with until I’m stumped and go “why do you think?” and hear the most out there reply
9/51
@gertieok
In homeschooling when we run into topics we are confused about or want to dig deeper into, we’ll set a timer (15 min, 30 min), hit ChatGPT to learn everything we can about the topic, then meet up and teach each other.
Wildly effective because the different prompts glean different perspectives. And learning something to the level of being able to teach it is crucial for retention.
10/51
@DollPariah
why cant you have a loving conversation with your son
11/51
@eerac
My 9 year old asked it what he would need to know to learn calculus (since he's heard it's like "fancy math") and it said you need to know algebra first (which we've talked about some).
He asked it to start teaching him algebra and somehow he ended up with it giving him simple single variable problems to solve. It was wild!
Once advanced voice mode is integrated with the ability to show text, images, math, etc... this use case will explode.
12/51
@time0149
The training data is overwhelmingly left and woke.
It is insideous.
Starts out apparently innocent, and quickly reinforces a point of view which is distinctly not truth-seeking.
13/51
@Bhaal_Spawn
'It engaged with him in a way I couldn't be bother to.'
14/51
@AccessTribe
This is all great, until his "teacher" starts lying to him about inconvenient facts that it has been programmed to lie about. AI teachers that are open source and truthful will be great teachers. ChatGPT will not be, by design.
15/51
@bilawalsidhu
The world’s knowledge is a question away — makes this stuff look like a relic
16/51
@tinystride
I've been using it on the morning drive to school with the kids. We'll tell it about a topic they're learning in class, then ask it to quiz them or dive deeper. So fun. Best part is that since it's audio, everyone can participate.
17/51
@rolandalong
Well stated and timed.
Reminds me of scene in Terminator where Sarah Connor is watching her son goofing around with the Terminator, thinking he would make a much better father to her son than other men in her life due to his patience and dedication to his mission.
18/51
@HerbsandDirt
Did you ever stop to think that this was exactly the point?
Now just wait until it’s filing his head with woke nonsense.
19/51
@mbateman
Did it have a system prompt or context of some sort that the user was a 5yo?
20/51
@_JKNFT_
chatGPT babysat my three kids while my wife and I went out for drinks. I think this is going to be revolutionary.
21/51
@jecrosbie
Now we just need to grow babies in test tubes and the population problem solved.
22/51
@dario_ferrando
Imagine having to explain to him in a couple years time that in fact neither chatgpt nor santa claus are in fact "real"
23/51
@AshSires
It's not ready to be used for educational purposes yet. I can get past the rare hallucinations but it's math capabilities are atrocious.
Last week I was using it to help teach my daughter division, it was a complete mess! It repeatedly got it wrong and now my daughter no longer trusts it with anything.
24/51
@ryancook_cook
Have you heard of the SF startup Curio? Advised by Sam Altman. My brother works there and they’re creating a stuffed animal with a kid safe chat gpt voice inside of it.
25/51
@black_orbit_2
What’s scary though is how much it might untrain social interaction skills.
26/51
@aean0x
You, as a father, should be doing this.
I would be ashamed.
27/51
@PaulZ1mmy
Exciting for people who don't want to parent.
28/51
@PrintedPathways
My son is 3, haven't used it much with him, other than telling me how to explain stuff to him.
I am so looking forward to raising a child that has a personal tutor to guide him in any direction he wants. The knowledge base our kids will have is going to be massive.
29/51
@hi_im_six
I've used it when commuting to have a conversation about anything that could came into my brain at that given moment. Then digging deeper as I wanted or moving to a new topic and learning in a different area.
Would equate it to going to a beach and scanning for metals.
30/51
@StevePender
This is another reason the AI that wins the public will be the one that is most accurate at teaching reality, not the most woke, not the dumbed down, or censorship throttled, but just the bare reality of the universe.
31/51
@PDXFato
I think I watched a dystopian movie that started like this....
32/51
@JohnNosta
We are at the Dawn of learner centric-education. Iterative Intelligence and the Dawn of Learner-Centricity
33/51
@tonytypesalot
Don't let anyone tell you this should be scary in any way. That's superstition. Do monitor what the software tells your son, but embrace AI. It's not going anywhere and has been a blessing to many, including me, a blind man who uses it to get descriptions of pictures.
34/51
@agentdobad
There is never a good reason to send your children to public school. It’s just a giant baby sitting agency that looks like and functions like a prison and makes your kids dumber and teaches them to stand in bread lines.
35/51
@ronrule
It will be great when we can finally replace insufferable teachers with it.
36/51
@HarperSCarroll
yesss!!! absolutely fantastic! thank you for sharing this
37/51
@Corlexys
@awilkinson yes, I‘m waiting for Grok‘s voice output to provide our kids with exactly that kind of teacher.
I hope it is available soon
38/51
@jemmm85517813
It is fine as long as he does not ask about climate. If he does the information is likely lies. The problem with any Ai system is that it is only as good as the information fed into it. There is no climate emergency. There is a propaganda emergency.
39/51
@onetallorfour
it's going to make your child less imaginative and less likely to learn on his own.
rather he will go to AI for answers. what reason is there to learn it when the answer is at his fingertips?
i already see this in software industry. third world morons use AI to bring themselves "up to par," but don't understand basic concepts and do not learn.
AI is going to build a world of idiots
40/51
@BrudaBeard
That is amazing! I can only imagine what future generations will be like having their own personal tutors with access to the WHOLE OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGE ready to teach it in an instant... Absolutely incredible
41/51
@BrisaRuiva
It could also poison the kids / teens with bad things or they could ask questions about things that aren’t so family friendly. This can go south on so many ways. Unless there’s someone watching them of course. I wouldn’t trust anyone bellow 16 alone with devices.
42/51
@StyliteLight
Looking into the cloudy future, perhaps people will have their own individual "A.I. Clippy" to guide them along in their life's goals. How well will the first 'Catholic Life' A.I. be received?
"It looks like you need assistance with fighting against the temptation to drunkenness. I would recommend taking a different route home so as to avoid your favorite bar."
43/51
@scdlcaramia
Imagine it inside a Tesla robot in your home...
Next year gonna be a leap forward.
44/51
@dazebdotdev
My 8yo loves chatting to @ChatGPT. she will play minecraft just chatting in the background its crazy they take to it so quickly. Shame her teachers in her school are against AI for teaching, i wonder why.
45/51
@CallumMacClark
I've been saying this for years. AI will be the great leveler when it comes to education. The rich have always hired tutors to make sure their children do well. Now everyone can have a patient, intelligent, kind tutor in their pocket
46/51
@pkobts
I'm excited for the confluence of advances LLMs like @ChatGPTapp and advanced robotics like @Tesla_Optimus
I hope for very objective collaborations in this space of AI and robotics.
- amazing Nannys to support the ever challenging task of parenting
47/51
@AbundantLifeMen
Imagine looking back on this first “conversation” with AI as a milestone in your son's learning journey.
Moments like these — where curiosity meets tech — can become enduring memories of growth and discovery.
Here’s to a lifelong love of learning!
48/51
@thegenioo
this is wholesome moment especially for AI
I see comment section bashing you but I don’t have any say in your personal life
But if I were a parent I will try my best that I talk to my child even if it takes me to put more effort and even if it is difficult so that he or she doesn’t miss on their parent
49/51
@FrancisDuPonty
Absolutely love it! Kids and I had a conversation at dinner with Ai advanced voice being part of it. It’s brilliant, understands who is who
50/51
@_colemurray
Me knowing if build this experience with the voice API I’m looking at $12-14/hr
51/51
@SpacemanTheDJen
I actually calibrate with syllabuses and will produce some tutors with distinctive personalities, improving their efficacy signifanctly @mymaits. My 5 year old is one of the inspirations for this. Our Beta test is phonics lessons getting him to read. LMK if you want to get on the beta list.
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
@awilkinson
Just watched my 5-year-old son chat with ChatGPT advanced voice mode for over 45 minutes.
It started with a question about how cars were made.
It explained it in a way that he could understand.
He started peppering it with questions.
Then he told it about his teacher, and that he was learning to count.
ChatGPT started quizzing him on counting, and egging him on, making it into a game.
He was laughing and having a blast, and it (obviously) never lost patience with him.
I think this is going to be revolutionary. The essentially free, infinitely patient, super genius teacher that calibrates itself perfectly to your kid's learning style and pace.
Excited about the future.
2/51
@grantosan
Guarantee your son would prefer to have that conversation with you. He’ll remember it and you’ll regret ceding this part of your life to AI.
3/51
@awilkinson
Of course, but I'm not ALWAYS around. I work, I do chores, he goes to school. This is 10,000x better than any episode of Sesame Street.
4/51
@PTrubey
I suspect kids like robots better than humans as teachers because there’s no judgment coming from a robot. There’s no emotional reproof when you get something wrong or struggle with something.
5/51
@LastCoinStandng
This can replace The Department of "Education".
6/51
@gregisenberg
95% excited, 5% frightened
7/51
@WholeMarsBlog
I just hope it raises our children well
8/51
@YoshiJoshi_
The day my kid runs to ask chatGPT the answer to something, and not me, will be a sad day.
Nothing I enjoy more than answering the constant stream of “whys” my three year old comes out with until I’m stumped and go “why do you think?” and hear the most out there reply
9/51
@gertieok
In homeschooling when we run into topics we are confused about or want to dig deeper into, we’ll set a timer (15 min, 30 min), hit ChatGPT to learn everything we can about the topic, then meet up and teach each other.
Wildly effective because the different prompts glean different perspectives. And learning something to the level of being able to teach it is crucial for retention.
10/51
@DollPariah
why cant you have a loving conversation with your son
11/51
@eerac
My 9 year old asked it what he would need to know to learn calculus (since he's heard it's like "fancy math") and it said you need to know algebra first (which we've talked about some).
He asked it to start teaching him algebra and somehow he ended up with it giving him simple single variable problems to solve. It was wild!
Once advanced voice mode is integrated with the ability to show text, images, math, etc... this use case will explode.
12/51
@time0149
The training data is overwhelmingly left and woke.
It is insideous.
Starts out apparently innocent, and quickly reinforces a point of view which is distinctly not truth-seeking.
13/51
@Bhaal_Spawn
'It engaged with him in a way I couldn't be bother to.'
14/51
@AccessTribe
This is all great, until his "teacher" starts lying to him about inconvenient facts that it has been programmed to lie about. AI teachers that are open source and truthful will be great teachers. ChatGPT will not be, by design.
15/51
@bilawalsidhu
The world’s knowledge is a question away — makes this stuff look like a relic
16/51
@tinystride
I've been using it on the morning drive to school with the kids. We'll tell it about a topic they're learning in class, then ask it to quiz them or dive deeper. So fun. Best part is that since it's audio, everyone can participate.
17/51
@rolandalong
Well stated and timed.
Reminds me of scene in Terminator where Sarah Connor is watching her son goofing around with the Terminator, thinking he would make a much better father to her son than other men in her life due to his patience and dedication to his mission.
18/51
@HerbsandDirt
Did you ever stop to think that this was exactly the point?
Now just wait until it’s filing his head with woke nonsense.
19/51
@mbateman
Did it have a system prompt or context of some sort that the user was a 5yo?
20/51
@_JKNFT_
chatGPT babysat my three kids while my wife and I went out for drinks. I think this is going to be revolutionary.
21/51
@jecrosbie
Now we just need to grow babies in test tubes and the population problem solved.
22/51
@dario_ferrando
Imagine having to explain to him in a couple years time that in fact neither chatgpt nor santa claus are in fact "real"
23/51
@AshSires
It's not ready to be used for educational purposes yet. I can get past the rare hallucinations but it's math capabilities are atrocious.
Last week I was using it to help teach my daughter division, it was a complete mess! It repeatedly got it wrong and now my daughter no longer trusts it with anything.
24/51
@ryancook_cook
Have you heard of the SF startup Curio? Advised by Sam Altman. My brother works there and they’re creating a stuffed animal with a kid safe chat gpt voice inside of it.
25/51
@black_orbit_2
What’s scary though is how much it might untrain social interaction skills.
26/51
@aean0x
You, as a father, should be doing this.
I would be ashamed.
27/51
@PaulZ1mmy
Exciting for people who don't want to parent.
28/51
@PrintedPathways
My son is 3, haven't used it much with him, other than telling me how to explain stuff to him.
I am so looking forward to raising a child that has a personal tutor to guide him in any direction he wants. The knowledge base our kids will have is going to be massive.
29/51
@hi_im_six
I've used it when commuting to have a conversation about anything that could came into my brain at that given moment. Then digging deeper as I wanted or moving to a new topic and learning in a different area.
Would equate it to going to a beach and scanning for metals.
30/51
@StevePender
This is another reason the AI that wins the public will be the one that is most accurate at teaching reality, not the most woke, not the dumbed down, or censorship throttled, but just the bare reality of the universe.
31/51
@PDXFato
I think I watched a dystopian movie that started like this....
32/51
@JohnNosta
We are at the Dawn of learner centric-education. Iterative Intelligence and the Dawn of Learner-Centricity
33/51
@tonytypesalot
Don't let anyone tell you this should be scary in any way. That's superstition. Do monitor what the software tells your son, but embrace AI. It's not going anywhere and has been a blessing to many, including me, a blind man who uses it to get descriptions of pictures.
34/51
@agentdobad
There is never a good reason to send your children to public school. It’s just a giant baby sitting agency that looks like and functions like a prison and makes your kids dumber and teaches them to stand in bread lines.
35/51
@ronrule
It will be great when we can finally replace insufferable teachers with it.
36/51
@HarperSCarroll
yesss!!! absolutely fantastic! thank you for sharing this
37/51
@Corlexys
@awilkinson yes, I‘m waiting for Grok‘s voice output to provide our kids with exactly that kind of teacher.
I hope it is available soon
38/51
@jemmm85517813
It is fine as long as he does not ask about climate. If he does the information is likely lies. The problem with any Ai system is that it is only as good as the information fed into it. There is no climate emergency. There is a propaganda emergency.
39/51
@onetallorfour
it's going to make your child less imaginative and less likely to learn on his own.
rather he will go to AI for answers. what reason is there to learn it when the answer is at his fingertips?
i already see this in software industry. third world morons use AI to bring themselves "up to par," but don't understand basic concepts and do not learn.
AI is going to build a world of idiots
40/51
@BrudaBeard
That is amazing! I can only imagine what future generations will be like having their own personal tutors with access to the WHOLE OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGE ready to teach it in an instant... Absolutely incredible
41/51
@BrisaRuiva
It could also poison the kids / teens with bad things or they could ask questions about things that aren’t so family friendly. This can go south on so many ways. Unless there’s someone watching them of course. I wouldn’t trust anyone bellow 16 alone with devices.
42/51
@StyliteLight
Looking into the cloudy future, perhaps people will have their own individual "A.I. Clippy" to guide them along in their life's goals. How well will the first 'Catholic Life' A.I. be received?
"It looks like you need assistance with fighting against the temptation to drunkenness. I would recommend taking a different route home so as to avoid your favorite bar."
43/51
@scdlcaramia
Imagine it inside a Tesla robot in your home...
Next year gonna be a leap forward.
44/51
@dazebdotdev
My 8yo loves chatting to @ChatGPT. she will play minecraft just chatting in the background its crazy they take to it so quickly. Shame her teachers in her school are against AI for teaching, i wonder why.
45/51
@CallumMacClark
I've been saying this for years. AI will be the great leveler when it comes to education. The rich have always hired tutors to make sure their children do well. Now everyone can have a patient, intelligent, kind tutor in their pocket
46/51
@pkobts
I'm excited for the confluence of advances LLMs like @ChatGPTapp and advanced robotics like @Tesla_Optimus
I hope for very objective collaborations in this space of AI and robotics.
- amazing Nannys to support the ever challenging task of parenting
47/51
@AbundantLifeMen
Imagine looking back on this first “conversation” with AI as a milestone in your son's learning journey.
Moments like these — where curiosity meets tech — can become enduring memories of growth and discovery.
Here’s to a lifelong love of learning!
48/51
@thegenioo
this is wholesome moment especially for AI
I see comment section bashing you but I don’t have any say in your personal life
But if I were a parent I will try my best that I talk to my child even if it takes me to put more effort and even if it is difficult so that he or she doesn’t miss on their parent
49/51
@FrancisDuPonty
Absolutely love it! Kids and I had a conversation at dinner with Ai advanced voice being part of it. It’s brilliant, understands who is who
50/51
@_colemurray
Me knowing if build this experience with the voice API I’m looking at $12-14/hr
51/51
@SpacemanTheDJen
I actually calibrate with syllabuses and will produce some tutors with distinctive personalities, improving their efficacy signifanctly @mymaits. My 5 year old is one of the inspirations for this. Our Beta test is phonics lessons getting him to read. LMK if you want to get on the beta list.
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
Black Haven
We will find another road to glory!!!
1/6
@rohanpaul_ai
Just ask o1-mini to think longer.
o1-mini tends to get better results on the 2024 American Invitational Mathematics Examination (AIME) when it's told to use more tokens.
2/6
@rohanpaul_ai
3/6
@BobbyGRG
here some cool details too
[Quoted tweet]
are you curious how openai got o1 to produce different-sized thought chains?
my team published a first-of-a-kind study lifting the veil off their techniques and exposing how they controlled inference-time compute to generate this graph:
4/6
@JrKibs
"think harder"
5/6
@adonis_singh
asking o1 to think longer doesn't work. it just ends up thinking less. this was in the o1 handbook by openai, and I have tested it to be true too
6/6
@StarlabsAI
I've attempted this already, but I couldn't get consistent results.
The process sometimes takes an unreasonable amount of time and other times it doesn't.
I've also observed that when you instruct it to plan ahead, it can reduce the thinking process and include the planning in the output.
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@rohanpaul_ai
Just ask o1-mini to think longer.
o1-mini tends to get better results on the 2024 American Invitational Mathematics Examination (AIME) when it's told to use more tokens.
2/6
@rohanpaul_ai
3/6
@BobbyGRG
here some cool details too
[Quoted tweet]
are you curious how openai got o1 to produce different-sized thought chains?
my team published a first-of-a-kind study lifting the veil off their techniques and exposing how they controlled inference-time compute to generate this graph:
4/6
@JrKibs
"think harder"
5/6
@adonis_singh
asking o1 to think longer doesn't work. it just ends up thinking less. this was in the o1 handbook by openai, and I have tested it to be true too
6/6
@StarlabsAI
I've attempted this already, but I couldn't get consistent results.
The process sometimes takes an unreasonable amount of time and other times it doesn't.
I've also observed that when you instruct it to plan ahead, it can reduce the thinking process and include the planning in the output.
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1/11
@mckaywrigley
Google Gemini 2.0 realtime AI is insane.
Watch me turn it into a live code tutor just by sharing my screen and talking to it.
We’re living in future.
I’m speechless.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1866930439400853507/vid/avc1/1714x1080/4fslYwVd9uibWhCC.mp4
2/11
@mckaywrigley
This is why the “Is it AGI???” conversations are so silly.
90% of people would’ve said this was AGI if you showed this to them 2 years ago.
The goalposts will keep moving…
And it won’t matter.
Because it’s already magic.
3/11
@mckaywrigley
Now I’m REALLY hoping one of OpenAI’s 12 days is AVM with video.
Give me alllll the realtime products you can feed me.
Feeling so lucky to be living in a genuine technological revolution.
Imagine what this can do for education alone!
So happy rn
4/11
@mckaywrigley
Predictably, OpenAI has launched their version the next day.
The race is on and I’m here for it.
5/11
@mckaywrigley
Prompt engineering 101.
6/11
@AndrichIan
Man, their voices have that same je ne sais quais Backpfeifengesicht tone that their company has.
Amazing
7/11
@mckaywrigley
Gimme custom voices
8/11
@AILeaksAndNews
Incredible demo, 2025 officially marks the start of living in the future
9/11
@mckaywrigley
2025 is the year for sure.
Acceleration is palpable
10/11
@kwindla
I had early access to this and have been building APIs/SDKs for the realtime/multimodal things that Google launched today. The voices are great and the video and spatial reasoning are super-impressive.
If you want to build your own app that has conversational, multimodal features, there are Open Source client SDKs with Gemini 2.0 multimodal support. Web, React, Android, iOS, and C++ — part of the @pipecat_ai ecosystem and officially blessed by Google.
These SDKs have device management, echo cancellation, and noise reduction built in. Plus lots of other features including hooks for function calling and tool use. They support both WebSocket and WebRTC network transport.
Here’s a full-featured starter kit built on the React SDK — a chat application with:
- a voice-to-voice WebSocket mode,
- an HTTP mode for text and image input,
and
- a WebRTC mode with text, voice, camera video and screenshare video.
GitHub - pipecat-ai/gemini-multimodal-live-demo: Chat Application Starter Kit — Gemini Multimodal Live API + Pipecat
11/11
@mckaywrigley
Excited to see what you and others have built
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@mckaywrigley
Google Gemini 2.0 realtime AI is insane.
Watch me turn it into a live code tutor just by sharing my screen and talking to it.
We’re living in future.
I’m speechless.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1866930439400853507/vid/avc1/1714x1080/4fslYwVd9uibWhCC.mp4
2/11
@mckaywrigley
This is why the “Is it AGI???” conversations are so silly.
90% of people would’ve said this was AGI if you showed this to them 2 years ago.
The goalposts will keep moving…
And it won’t matter.
Because it’s already magic.
3/11
@mckaywrigley
Now I’m REALLY hoping one of OpenAI’s 12 days is AVM with video.
Give me alllll the realtime products you can feed me.
Feeling so lucky to be living in a genuine technological revolution.
Imagine what this can do for education alone!
So happy rn
4/11
@mckaywrigley
Predictably, OpenAI has launched their version the next day.
The race is on and I’m here for it.
5/11
@mckaywrigley
Prompt engineering 101.
6/11
@AndrichIan
Man, their voices have that same je ne sais quais Backpfeifengesicht tone that their company has.
Amazing
7/11
@mckaywrigley
Gimme custom voices
8/11
@AILeaksAndNews
Incredible demo, 2025 officially marks the start of living in the future
9/11
@mckaywrigley
2025 is the year for sure.
Acceleration is palpable
10/11
@kwindla
I had early access to this and have been building APIs/SDKs for the realtime/multimodal things that Google launched today. The voices are great and the video and spatial reasoning are super-impressive.
If you want to build your own app that has conversational, multimodal features, there are Open Source client SDKs with Gemini 2.0 multimodal support. Web, React, Android, iOS, and C++ — part of the @pipecat_ai ecosystem and officially blessed by Google.
These SDKs have device management, echo cancellation, and noise reduction built in. Plus lots of other features including hooks for function calling and tool use. They support both WebSocket and WebRTC network transport.
Here’s a full-featured starter kit built on the React SDK — a chat application with:
- a voice-to-voice WebSocket mode,
- an HTTP mode for text and image input,
and
- a WebRTC mode with text, voice, camera video and screenshare video.
GitHub - pipecat-ai/gemini-multimodal-live-demo: Chat Application Starter Kit — Gemini Multimodal Live API + Pipecat
11/11
@mckaywrigley
Excited to see what you and others have built
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