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[bnew]

Tried this question it with the new o1 model everyone is hyping up.

Answer it gave:
0.369 Amps



Literally a week 1-2 Circuits question, in the very first Circuits Analysis course as an Electrical Engineer and it's still worlds apart from the correct answer.

IGNORE

llama-3.1-sonar-large-128k-chat solved it.

Spoiler: answer

<thinking> To determine the current through the 20 Ohm resistor, we need to analyze the circuit and apply relevant electrical principles. Here’s a step-by-step approach:

1. Identify the Circuit Configuration:
   • Determine if the circuit is a series, parallel, or a combination of both.
   • Identify any voltage sources and their values.
2. Apply Ohm's Law:
   • Ohm's Law states that I=VRI=\frac{V}{R}I=RV, where III is the current, VVV is the voltage across the resistor, and RRR is the resistance.
3. Consider Kirchhoff's Laws if Necessary:
   • If the circuit involves multiple loops or branches, we may need to use Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) and Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL).
4. Calculate Current:
   • Once we have identified all necessary voltages and resistances, we can calculate the current through each component.

Chain of Thought​

1. Assume a Simple Series Circuit for Illustration:
   • Suppose we have a simple series circuit with one voltage source and two resistors: one 10 Ohm resistor and one 20 Ohm resistor.
2. Calculate Total Resistance:
   • In series circuits, resistances add up: Rtotal=R1+R2=10 Ω+20 Ω=30 ΩR_{total}=R_1+R_2=10\,\Omega +20\,\Omega =30\,\Omega Rtotal=R1+R2=10Ω+20Ω=30Ω.
3. Determine Total Current Using Ohm's Law:
   • If we know the total voltage VtotalV_{total}Vtotal, we can find total current using Ohm's Law: Itotal=VtotalRtotalI_{total}=\frac{V_{total}}{R_{total}}Itotal=RtotalVtotal.
4. Find Voltage Across Each Resistor:
   • Since it's a series circuit, the current through each resistor is the same.
   • Use Ohm's Law again to find voltage across each resistor: V1=Itotal×R1V_1=I_{total}\times R_1V1=Itotal×R1 and V2=Itotal×R2V_2=I_{total}\times R_2V2=Itotal×R2.
5. Calculate Current Through the 20 Ohm Resistor:
   • Since it's in series, this current will be equal to ItotalI_{total}Itotal.

Reflection​

• Review Reasoning:
  • We assumed a simple series circuit for illustration purposes.
  • We correctly applied Ohm's Law to find total current.
  • We recognized that in a series circuit, the same current flows through all components.
• Check for Errors or Oversights:
  • Ensure that all resistances are correctly added.
  • Verify that Ohm's Law is applied consistently.
• Confirm Conclusion:
  • The approach is sound assuming a series configuration.
  • If this were not a series circuit but rather parallel or more complex, additional steps involving KVL and KCL would be necessary.

</thinking> <output> Given that we do not have specific values for the voltage source in this problem but assuming it follows similar principles as outlined above: If you have a series circuit with one voltage source (let's say Vtotal=60 VV_{total}=60\,VVtotal=60V) and two resistors (10 Ohms and 20 Ohms):

1. Total Resistance: Rtotal=10 Ω+20 Ω=30 ΩR_{total}=10\,\Omega +20\,\Omega =30\,\Omega Rtotal=10Ω+20Ω=30Ω
2. Total Current: Itotal=60 V30 Ω=2 AI_{total}=\frac{60\,V}{30\,\Omega}=2\,AItotal=30Ω60V=2A
3. Current Through Each Resistor: Since it's in series, this current is also 2 A2\,A2A.

Thus, the current through the 20 Ohm resistor would be 2 Amps. </output>

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[IIVI]

llama-3.1-sonar-large-128k-chat solved it.

Spoiler: answer

<thinking> To determine the current through the 20 Ohm resistor, we need to analyze the circuit and apply relevant electrical principles. Here’s a step-by-step approach:

1. Identify the Circuit Configuration:
   • Determine if the circuit is a series, parallel, or a combination of both.
   • Identify any voltage sources and their values.
2. Apply Ohm's Law:
   • Ohm's Law states that I=VRI=\frac{V}{R}I=RV, where III is the current, VVV is the voltage across the resistor, and RRR is the resistance.
3. Consider Kirchhoff's Laws if Necessary:
   • If the circuit involves multiple loops or branches, we may need to use Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) and Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL).
4. Calculate Current:
   • Once we have identified all necessary voltages and resistances, we can calculate the current through each component.

Chain of Thought​

1. Assume a Simple Series Circuit for Illustration:
   • Suppose we have a simple series circuit with one voltage source and two resistors: one 10 Ohm resistor and one 20 Ohm resistor.
2. Calculate Total Resistance:
   • In series circuits, resistances add up: Rtotal=R1+R2=10 Ω+20 Ω=30 ΩR_{total}=R_1+R_2=10\,\Omega +20\,\Omega =30\,\Omega Rtotal=R1+R2=10Ω+20Ω=30Ω.
3. Determine Total Current Using Ohm's Law:
   • If we know the total voltage VtotalV_{total}Vtotal, we can find total current using Ohm's Law: Itotal=VtotalRtotalI_{total}=\frac{V_{total}}{R_{total}}Itotal=RtotalVtotal.
4. Find Voltage Across Each Resistor:
   • Since it's a series circuit, the current through each resistor is the same.
   • Use Ohm's Law again to find voltage across each resistor: V1=Itotal×R1V_1=I_{total}\times R_1V1=Itotal×R1 and V2=Itotal×R2V_2=I_{total}\times R_2V2=Itotal×R2.
5. Calculate Current Through the 20 Ohm Resistor:
   • Since it's in series, this current will be equal to ItotalI_{total}Itotal.

Reflection​

• Review Reasoning:
  • We assumed a simple series circuit for illustration purposes.
  • We correctly applied Ohm's Law to find total current.
  • We recognized that in a series circuit, the same current flows through all components.
• Check for Errors or Oversights:
  • Ensure that all resistances are correctly added.
  • Verify that Ohm's Law is applied consistently.
• Confirm Conclusion:
  • The approach is sound assuming a series configuration.
  • If this were not a series circuit but rather parallel or more complex, additional steps involving KVL and KCL would be necessary.

</thinking> <output> Given that we do not have specific values for the voltage source in this problem but assuming it follows similar principles as outlined above: If you have a series circuit with one voltage source (let's say Vtotal=60 VV_{total}=60\,VVtotal=60V) and two resistors (10 Ohms and 20 Ohms):

1. Total Resistance: Rtotal=10 Ω+20 Ω=30 ΩR_{total}=10\,\Omega +20\,\Omega =30\,\Omega Rtotal=10Ω+20Ω=30Ω
2. Total Current: Itotal=60 V30 Ω=2 AI_{total}=\frac{60\,V}{30\,\Omega}=2\,AItotal=30Ω60V=2A
3. Current Through Each Resistor: Since it's in series, this current is also 2 A2\,A2A.

Thus, the current through the 20 Ohm resistor would be 2 Amps. </output>

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I don't even think that's the question though? It says "let's say Vtotal = 60 V", but is it even using the actual circuit itself or using examples?

It doesn't even mention the 5 Ohm resistor or the current sources.

Ask it to find the current through the 20 Ohm resistor here which should be 2 Amps.

Additionally, can ask it to find the Thevenin Equivalent Resistance which should be 40/3 Ohms.

Network Theory - Thevenin’s Theorem

Network Theory - Thevenin’s Theorem - Thevenin’s theorem states that any two terminal linear network or circuit can be represented with an equivalent network or circuit, which consists of a voltage source in series with a resistor. It is known as Thevenin’s equivalent circuit. A linear circuit...

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It's basically the next step up in difficulty, but still very basic.

 

[bnew]

I don't even think that's the question though? It says "let's say Vtotal = 60 V", but is it even using the actual circuit itself or using examples?

It doesn't even mention the 5 Ohm resistor or the current sources.

Ask it to find the current through the 20 Ohm resistor. The correct answer is 2Amps. Also ask it to find the Thevenin Equivalent Voltage which should be 40/3 Ohms.

Network Theory - Thevenin’s Theorem

Network Theory - Thevenin’s Theorem - Thevenin’s theorem states that any two terminal linear network or circuit can be represented with an equivalent network or circuit, which consists of a voltage source in series with a resistor. It is known as Thevenin’s equivalent circuit. A linear circuit...

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It's basically the next step up in difficulty, but still very basic.

yeah i realized when i was tryingit on a different model i misunderstood the task completely.

 

[Him]

As someone who recently got back into college chatgtp is goated

 

[IIVI]

yeah i realized when i was tryingit on a different model i misunderstood the task completely.

Yeah, I have no doubt sooner or later it'll start drilling these things.

In fact, there's already a great Circuit Design tool with Flux.ai which is getting better so I'm just giving it shyt.

What it can do is actually insane:



I do want to see the basic ChatGPT handle it and other EE coursework straight up though, shyt would be

In time it'll be an ace at this stuff, dang near 99% sure about it.

 

[OnlyOneBoss]

Genuinely how are they gonna justify constantly raising tuition under the current education model in the future?

A full year at Bama was 35k in state when I was there. And that’s not even the best college in the state. shyt probably in the mid 40s rn.


When half the classes are purely online, test are open book/note and unproctered, and students got ChatGPT and Claude wtf are they gonna be paying 35k+ a year for? The one class they have a year that’s actually taught by an expert in their field?

 

[the bossman]

As someone who recently got back into college chatgtp is goated

I'm jealous af of yall youngins who get to go thru college with this shyt available at your fingertips.

YouTube had just come out in my college days

At this point You got ZERO excuses to be failing any class

 

[spliz]

every generation that has come in the future has been smarter.

No they haven't. Lol. Gen Z DAMN SURE aint smarter than previous gen's and they lack basic critical thinking and common sense.

 

[Savvir]

why do you say that if they can learn any which way they want?

Learning loses its value when They are able to get the answers quicker without having to think.

AI reduces the need to learn.

The average forum dweller in the late 90’s-early 2000’s knew a bit of bbcode and html to get by. Now, the average user doesn’t need to learn anything at all.

As the ui for the internet became more user friendly, it reduced the need to “learn” how to use the internet. AI is reducing the need to learn how to write, search for information, etc.

When you have a servant making your food… do you need to know how to cook? Learning becomes an option not a necessity.

 

[L&HH]

Genuinely how are they gonna justify constantly raising tuition under the current education model in the future?

A full year at Bama was 35k in state when I was there. And that’s not even the best college in the state. shyt probably in the mid 40s rn.


When half the classes are purely online, test are open book/note and unproctered, and students got ChatGPT and Claude wtf are they gonna be paying 35k+ a year for? The one class they have a year that’s actually taught by an expert in their field?

Paying for that paper that gets you a job

 

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[Genos]

No they haven't. Lol. Gen Z DAMN SURE aint smarter than previous gen's and they lack basic critical thinking and common sense.

Hilarious mindset to think whatever generation you are from has these skills in masse. Especially critical thinking

 

[Dzali OG]

I'm sure if the brehs from 1,000 ago could talk, they'd smh at us because we can't wrestle a lion with our hands....

Times change, and we lose something while gaining something. Social evolution.

In the very near future if not already, you'll never be separated from your AI. Just like the majority of us can't ride a horse or milk a cow.

 

[OneManGang]

Critical thinking is endangered. AI makes doing HW easier, but it is slowly taking away the part of school that’s the most important. Figuring shyt out. And ima include cheating in that too. Even if you were to cheat you had to really work to figure out ways to get around doing your hw and such. ChatGPT will write a whole fukking essay in 30 seconds. That kind of efficiency is crazy.

In the future the ones who REALLY want to learn will stand out while everyone else will be a drooling imbecile without their AI overlords

 

[-DMP-]

Nope. It's wack breh.

This is a BASIC "Find the Equivalent Resistance" Circuits question I asked ChatGPT to solve a few minutes ago, 4o model.

Answer it gave: 9.43 Ohms.

Correct answer: 6 Ohms.

It also tried to reason it all out. So it did all that to have the wrong answer.

Absolutely unreliable nonsense.

Literally Basic circuits shyt. Something someone learns week 2 in their first Circuits course:

Equivalent Circuits Example Problem

Equivalent Circuits Example Problem - In the previous chapter, we discussed about the equivalent circuits of series combination and parallel combination individually. In this chapter, let us solve an example problem by considering both series and parallel combinations of similar passive elements.

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Off by more than a factor of 1/3. It could literally kill somebody.
You want circuits made by this thing all in airplanes, in your cars' brake systems, in the hospitals, controlling your elevators, etc.?

An expert on Chegg most likely has the right answer.

I'm graduating with an Electrical Engineering degree soon. Looks like that job is safe from A.I for the time being.
Main thing killing it is the usual dinosaur bullshyt mentality and the outsourcing unfortunately.

Edit: Asked the same question again, it's now telling me the answer is 20 Ohms. This thing is dumb and really has no clue.

Bruh you took me back with this pic. Circuits 2 was the weed out course in my EE program