ChatGPT Brings Down Online Education Stocks. Chegg Loses 95%. Students Don’t Need It Anymore

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Next generation gonna be dumb AF
why do you say that if they can learn any which way they want?


Because the typical incentives to learn are being destroyed. And distractions are multiplying exponentially. People still "can" learn in helpful ways, but corporate profiteers are doing everything possible to convince them to make other choices instead.



every generation that has come in the future has been smarter.


Not anymore, average IQs in developed nations finally stopped increasing in the 2010s and may even be dropping now according to some studies. And academic achievement in schools stopped improving somewhere around 2013 and had started dropping severely even before the pandemic hit.
 

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It is what it is if we are keeping it 1000

If you are somewhat of a competent student you better be on YouTube, Wikipedia, ChatGPT and remixing all of it with your natural abilities — and get them damn ebooks for free.

I copped my niece an iPad, Apple Pencil and told her to load that bĩtch up with ebooks that I bust my ass to find because a $400 iPad is cheaper than $500 in books.
 

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It is what it is if we are keeping it 1000

If you are somewhat of a competent student you better be on YouTube, Wikipedia, ChatGPT and remixing all of it with your natural abilities — and get them damn ebooks for free.

I copped my niece an iPad, Apple Pencil and told her to load that bĩtch up with ebooks that I bust my ass to find because a $400 iPad is cheaper than $500 in books.
Bro I’m :flabbynsick: do people still use torrents to find free ebooks?
 

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Bro I’m :flabbynsick: do people still use torrents to find free ebooks?

Breh I haven’t touched a torrent in 15 years.

Too much headache unless there’s something you just can’t find.

Plenty sites have ebooks if you know where to look — or your part of a community that’s sharing with each other. Smart play is get a tablet and find the stuff to put on it.
 

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When you hit it from the back
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Or if you use ChatPT to DIY replacing your electrical panel lol

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Next generation gonna be dumb AF

Could not disagree more.

History has taught us that knowledge is only truly valuable if it is pertinent to the world you live in.

This is why software developers can create new amazing applications without knowing how to physically make logic gates.

This is why physicists can do super complex calculation with a calculator and not be considered idiots for not doing it by hand.

This is why doctors do not need to memorize old outdated methods of treatment that were deemed inefficient centuries ago.

Whenever the ability to gain information is improved, those who are smart will always push the envelope. Those who are stupid and lazy will still have more access to knowledge than their predecessor.


Is there anyone here who has less "usable" knowledge than their grandparents? No. And if you said yes you're just a lazy idiot
 

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At this point they could eliminate all education costs and merit certification on people coming in to write exams/do practicals... doing their own independent studies and you would still have uneducated people... masses of them

education is a pursuit and the easier the access gets the less interested basic humans are in it. fear the future. we have developments like this happening while people are telling each other if their kids fail as basic math and literacy it's the school and teacher fault.

time for excuses is way up... :yeshrug:
 

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Could not disagree more.

History has taught us that knowledge is only truly valuable if it is pertinent to the world you live in.

This is why software developers can create new amazing applications without knowing how to physically make logic gates.

This is why physicists can do super complex calculation with a calculator and not be considered idiots for not doing it by hand.

This is why doctors do not need to memorize old outdated methods of treatment that were deemed inefficient centuries ago.

Whenever the ability to gain information is improved, those who are smart will always push the envelope. Those who are stupid and lazy will still have more access to knowledge than their predecessor.


Is there anyone here who has less "usable" knowledge than their grandparents? No. And if you said yes you're just a lazy idiot
issue is if the system we live in fell apart we would not be alble to reverse engineer our way back here if the basic steps of how we got here are deemed irrelevant. what happens when digital tools fail and you depend on them to bridge those gaps we have deemed outdated.

we don't have to retain as much information you are right but also our memories are getting worse. there's a give and take in all of this.
 

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Could not disagree more.

History has taught us that knowledge is only truly valuable if it is pertinent to the world you live in.

This is why software developers can create new amazing applications without knowing how to physically make logic gates.

This is why physicists can do super complex calculation with a calculator and not be considered idiots for not doing it by hand.

This is why doctors do not need to memorize old outdated methods of treatment that were deemed inefficient centuries ago.

Whenever the ability to gain information is improved, those who are smart will always push the envelope. Those who are stupid and lazy will still have more access to knowledge than their predecessor.


Is there anyone here who has less "usable" knowledge than their grandparents? No. And if you said yes you're just a lazy idiot

Id be with you if AI was always accurate

but it aint
 

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At this point they could eliminate all education costs and merit certification on people coming in to write exams/do practicals... doing their own independent studies and you would still have uneducated people... masses of them

education is a pursuit and the easier the access gets the less interested basic humans are in it. fear the future. we have developments like this happening while people are telling each other if their kids fail as basic math and literacy it's the school and teacher fault.

time for excuses is way up... :yeshrug:
I don’t think this really matters. Midterms and finals usually make up the majority off the gradez When I was in college homework and essays were only like 20% of the final grade.
 

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I got another good circuits task to ask of it.
nodal_analysis.jpg


Ask it to write the CircuitJS code for it. Copy the output it gives.

Then go to https://www.falstad.com/circuit/circuitjs.html

File > Import From Text and see how close it is :mjlol: :heh:

A lot of them don't even run!

I can't even use that thing to save time on basic Circuits stuff.

Chegg experts would laugh at this stuff.


Edit:
Bonus ask it to find the Current through the 20 Ohm resistor.

The correct answer is 2 Amps.

Do the same 30 minutes later. Does it even give the same wrong answer later or another completely different wrong answer?

My barometer is when it can start to solve stuff like this correctly, then I'll start taking note and being impressed.
Tried this question it with the new o1 model everyone is hyping up.

Answer it gave:
0.369 Amps

:mjlol: :heh:

Literally a week 1-2 Circuits question, in the very first Circuits Analysis course as an Electrical Engineer and it's still worlds apart from the correct answer.
 
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