Chapelle defends trump and calls him the terminator

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Bumping this to get some HL insights on Chappelle. (Ignore the MAGA title)

I think Dave is insightful and makes valid points, but he does have some takes that I can't help but side-eye. I watched his 10 minute set released yesterday and he touches on Snowden, and Covid in ways that kinda miss the nuance of both sides of the argument. He has this entitlement about touring because someone told him things won't get better until 2022 and he didn't want to wait that long. He fails to realize the effect it would have on the population if everyone had the same sentiment regardless of their job/money. Then he feels slighted because people who stayed in the house and didn't catch Covid admonished him and were indifferent about his health after he caught covid.

It's unintentionally (unconsciously?) a very self-centered way of looking at the world. Thinking about his specials over the last few years, IMO he has become more centered around proving why he's right and the mainstream world is wrong... Reminds me of Corey Holcomb or Patrice O'neal in their sets about women. He definitely isn't a smart-dumb nikka, but I think that sometimes he fails to see the gray and perceives issues as black & white. I think that his views on transgender rights, covid, and other topics just aren't very well thought-out and show a consistent inability to actually take a step back and contemplate how his views play out IRL instead of in the comedy club circuit.

I appreciate the way that he views the world and I've seen enough of his content to know that he is the GOAT (His 3.5 hour throwaway set is better than almost every stand up special I've seen) but I guess when his style shifts from making people laugh -> strong cultural hot takes that are often not as liberal as the times, I feel like he isn't as well-versed as he should be, and comes up with some views that in all likelihood won't stand the test of time.

Interested to hear yalls opinion
 

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Bumping this to get some HL insights on Chappelle. (Ignore the MAGA title)

I think Dave is insightful and makes valid points, but he does have some takes that I can't help but side-eye. I watched his 10 minute set released yesterday and he touches on Snowden, and Covid in ways that kinda miss the nuance of both sides of the argument. He has this entitlement about touring because someone told him things won't get better until 2022 and he didn't want to wait that long. He fails to realize the effect it would have on the population if everyone had the same sentiment regardless of their job/money. Then he feels slighted because people who stayed in the house and didn't catch Covid admonished him and were indifferent about his health after he caught covid.

It's unintentionally (unconsciously?) a very self-centered way of looking at the world. Thinking about his specials over the last few years, IMO he has become more centered around proving why he's right and the mainstream world is wrong... Reminds me of Corey Holcomb or Patrice O'neal in their sets about women. He definitely isn't a smart-dumb nikka, but I think that sometimes he fails to see the gray and perceives issues as black & white. I think that his views on transgender rights, covid, and other topics just aren't very well thought-out and show a consistent inability to actually take a step back and contemplate how his views play out IRL instead of in the comedy club circuit.

I appreciate the way that he views the world and I've seen enough of his content to know that he is the GOAT (His 3.5 hour throwaway set is better than almost every stand up special I've seen) but I guess when his style shifts from making people laugh -> strong cultural hot takes that are often not as liberal as the times, I feel like he isn't as well-versed as he should be, and comes up with some views that in all likelihood won't stand the test of time.

Interested to hear yalls opinion

He spent a ton of money creating a bubble in Yellow Springs and in Austin. When he caught Covid after all the precautions he was taking, there were people who were gleeful about it. Check out the TRL thread. I guess he was passed off about it.

I’m surprised that a few seconds of that 12 minute clip is what you chose to focus on and not the observations on Race in regards to the Capitol attacks or his victory over two huge media conglomerates.
 

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He spent a ton of money creating a bubble in Yellow Springs and in Austin. When he caught Covid after all the precautions he was taking, there were people who were gleeful about it. Check out the TRL thread. I guess he was passed off about it.

I’m surprised that a few seconds of that 12 minute clip is what you chose to focus on and not the observations on Race in regards to the Capitol attacks or his victory over two huge media conglomerates.
They are intertwined.

Based on my understanding, Snowden's efforts were against the government automatically collecting data & forcing private companies to share their data before a crime had been committed. The Capitol Hill situation is the exact opposite. The FBI et al are using public social media data as well as subponeaing private companies to get access to data about those who committed crimes. They aren't surveilling the entire population like a nanny state which makes his reference to Snowden seem distractingly incorrect.

With regards to his 'victory' over Netflix/Viacom.... He was celebrated when he overcame and got his Comedy Central deal. He was celebrated overcame and got his Netflix deals. He was celebrated when he released his (5) Netflix specials. He was celebrated when he got the Mark Twain awards.

This isn't some David & Goliath story where everyone is glossing over his success. Dave is worth over $50 million dollars and is in a situation where he is not an essential worker but keeps putting himself and his team at risk to do comedy shows with Joe Rogan in the middle of a pandemic.
 

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I know the coli rides heavy for Dave, so I expect a bunch of negs for this: Dave is one of my fav comedians of all time based on his first 2 stand ups alone, but man he has become a parody of himself. Def reeks of arrogance and thinks hes smarter than people on issues. And he has many . :mjpls: moments in recent years
 

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Bumping this to get some HL insights on Chappelle. (Ignore the MAGA title)

I think Dave is insightful and makes valid points, but he does have some takes that I can't help but side-eye. I watched his 10 minute set released yesterday and he touches on Snowden, and Covid in ways that kinda miss the nuance of both sides of the argument. He has this entitlement about touring because someone told him things won't get better until 2022 and he didn't want to wait that long. He fails to realize the effect it would have on the population if everyone had the same sentiment regardless of their job/money. Then he feels slighted because people who stayed in the house and didn't catch Covid admonished him and were indifferent about his health after he caught covid.

It's unintentionally (unconsciously?) a very self-centered way of looking at the world. Thinking about his specials over the last few years, IMO he has become more centered around proving why he's right and the mainstream world is wrong... Reminds me of Corey Holcomb or Patrice O'neal in their sets about women. He definitely isn't a smart-dumb nikka, but I think that sometimes he fails to see the gray and perceives issues as black & white. I think that his views on transgender rights, covid, and other topics just aren't very well thought-out and show a consistent inability to actually take a step back and contemplate how his views play out IRL instead of in the comedy club circuit.

I appreciate the way that he views the world and I've seen enough of his content to know that he is the GOAT (His 3.5 hour throwaway set is better than almost every stand up special I've seen) but I guess when his style shifts from making people laugh -> strong cultural hot takes that are often not as liberal as the times, I feel like he isn't as well-versed as he should be, and comes up with some views that in all likelihood won't stand the test of time.

Interested to hear yalls opinion

Honestly breh, most men today would absolutely fall outside of what is considered "mainstream" or "acceptable" online. That is Chappelle's base.
 

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I know the coli rides heavy for Dave, so I expect a bunch of negs for this: Dave is one of my fav comedians of all time based on his first 2 stand ups alone, but man he has become a parody of himself. Def reeks of arrogance and thinks hes smarter than people on issues. And he has many . :mjpls: moments in recent years
He's an edgelord :unimpressed:
 

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They are intertwined.

Based on my understanding, Snowden's efforts were against the government automatically collecting data & forcing private companies to share their data before a crime had been committed. The Capitol Hill situation is the exact opposite. The FBI et al are using public social media data as well as subponeaing private companies to get access to data about those who committed crimes. They aren't surveilling the entire population like a nanny state which makes his reference to Snowden seem distractingly incorrect.

With regards to his 'victory' over Netflix/Viacom.... He was celebrated when he overcame and got his Comedy Central deal. He was celebrated overcame and got his Netflix deals. He was celebrated when he released his (5) Netflix specials. He was celebrated when he got the Mark Twain awards.


This isn't some David & Goliath story where everyone is glossing over his success. Dave is worth over $50 million dollars and is in a situation where he is not an essential worker but keeps putting himself and his team at risk to do comedy shows with Joe Rogan in the middle of a pandemic.

I really don't know what you are trying to say with the bolded. As far as performing during Covid, Donnell Rawlings said Dave has spent over a million to create a safe bubble to do comedy. No different than the NBA or NFL. They have nurses on site to test and retest performers. Audience members are required to wear a mask at all times and temperatures are taken before admittance. They are also socially distanced and the performance is outdoors at a black owned restaurant in Texas.

What exactly do you have a problem with? If the NFL and NBA can have seasons, why can't Dave set up a bubble for him and his comedian buddies to practice their trade?
 

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I really don't know what you are trying to say with the bolded. As far as performing during Covid, Donnell Rawlings said Dave has spent over a million to create a safe bubble to do comedy. No different than the NBA or NFL. They have nurses on site to test and retest performers. Audience members are required to wear a mask at all times and temperatures are taken before admittance. They are also socially distanced and the performance is outdoors at a black owned restaurant in Texas.

What exactly do you have a problem with? If the NFL and NBA can have seasons, why can't Dave set up a bubble for him and his comedian buddies to practice their trade?
  • The average NFL/NBA player doesn't have $50 million or enough to retire comfortably.
  • The average NFL/NBA player has a window with which they can stay in the league. Comedians (especially Dave Chappelle) do not have this issue
  • The average NFL game gets 15.4 million viewers. The average live Chappelle show during quarantine averages less than 200 people. His impact is the same as a bar that refused to close during quarantine.
 

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  • The average NFL/NBA player doesn't have $50 million or enough to retire comfortably.
  • The average NFL/NBA player has a window with which they can stay in the league. Comedians (especially Dave Chappelle) do not have this issue
  • The average NFL game gets 15.4 million viewers. The average live Chappelle show during quarantine averages less than 200 people. His impact is the same as a bar that refused to close during quarantine.

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?
 
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