Mortal1
Superstar
As I stated before Killmonger was only a villain due to his methods he learned from the white supremacist nation of America. 
Chadwick Boseman says T’Challa is the enemy in Black Panther
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a lot of your brothers and sisters in africia though the same way in africia when the killmongers of the world took over. a lot of Africans died because they bought the rhetoric on black liberation, while these same leaders won't even set up electricity in their neck of the woods
LuckyLibra619
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Bullshyt. so your telling me its nothing wrong about them sitting back and chilling while nations from another continent are colonize the land around you, dominating them and destroying their economy, and raping their resources, turning prospering countries into chaotic poverty stricken lands.
Hell, from a militaristic and logical standpoint, shouldn't you be worried that all the nations surrounded you are being colonized by foreigners who look nothing like you. Nah man
CarbonBraddock
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what would've happened after they sent out all the vibranium? you think their spies are going to take over the whole fukking earth? no, after they find out what's happening, all the nations of the world are going to talk amongst themselves, seeing they're all getting attacked by the same shyt and all, then they are going to track down where the spies came from and probably destroy all of africa and black people in general as well. the only way his plan would have worked was if he had some kind of shyt he could have unleashed that would have basically wiped out everyone who wasn't black in like a day or few days. he needed some shyt like planet of the apes, a virus or something like that, not weaponry.
panopticon
Superstar
T'challa's nature makes him an excellent king.
Not sure what Chadwick is on about regarding T'challa being born with a vibranium spoon in his mouth - that's the whole point.
You can expect a far higher level of moral virtue from someone with no excuses for whatever bad behavior they may engage in - and someone born to royal blood has no excuse.
Someone who has had to fight and claw their way to the top will have made several moral compromises to get there - and once you start down the road of moral compromises, your ability to toss aside your morals only grows exponentially. After all, at every step of the way, morality has been the roadblock to your success - so what sense does it make for you to remain moral?
Since the beginning of time, this has been the quandary that nations facing revolution have grappled with - oftentimes, after a honeymoon period, the new boss is even worse than the old boss.
If we're talking African nations in particular - how have Libya (post-Qadaffi), Sudan (post al-Mahdi), Ethiopia (post-Selassie), Nigeria (post-'66 coup), Egypt (post-MB takeover & defeat), Congo (Post-Mobutu), all fared?
They may come to power espousing the highest of ideals and principles, but the vast majority of revolutionaries end up betraying those promises because of their path to power.
The bottom line is that struggle isn't necessarily the signal of moral virtue that we intuitively believe it to be.
Not sure what Chadwick is on about regarding T'challa being born with a vibranium spoon in his mouth - that's the whole point.
You can expect a far higher level of moral virtue from someone with no excuses for whatever bad behavior they may engage in - and someone born to royal blood has no excuse.
Someone who has had to fight and claw their way to the top will have made several moral compromises to get there - and once you start down the road of moral compromises, your ability to toss aside your morals only grows exponentially. After all, at every step of the way, morality has been the roadblock to your success - so what sense does it make for you to remain moral?
Since the beginning of time, this has been the quandary that nations facing revolution have grappled with - oftentimes, after a honeymoon period, the new boss is even worse than the old boss.
If we're talking African nations in particular - how have Libya (post-Qadaffi), Sudan (post al-Mahdi), Ethiopia (post-Selassie), Nigeria (post-'66 coup), Egypt (post-MB takeover & defeat), Congo (Post-Mobutu), all fared?
They may come to power espousing the highest of ideals and principles, but the vast majority of revolutionaries end up betraying those promises because of their path to power.
The bottom line is that struggle isn't necessarily the signal of moral virtue that we intuitively believe it to be.
Oh man, you are really not taking the time period into context. People back then rarely moved 5 miles outside of where they were born. The boundaries you refer to was so not a concept or concern to most people
I know and actions are more complex than good and bad. What you're saying is it's bad. T'Challa caused the unrest Killmonger's plans were running fine until he showed up. It's YOUR OPINION that he was a shytty leader. WE SAW HIS DIPLOMACY when we saw him get M'kabi and the rest of the elders on board with plan. IT WAS SHOWN IN THE fukkING MOVIE. You've failed to discredit anything significant that he's done. You've basically just said "well I don't like that he did this I don't think he was that great of a leader" it doesn't fukking work that way.
CarbonBraddock
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wakanda can't control every nation on earth and they can't defeat every nation on earth either. what is it that ya'll thought was going to happen with a bunch of spearguns and spacejets? they're a small country. after the world finds out that the shyt is coming from africa, they would just firebomb after til there's nothing left. ya'll don't be thinking before ya'll post.
Lordgodking Nyc
I'm with the $hits
Another perspective
Lordgodking Nyc
I'm with the $hits
I love how Coogler did this. He went down the list and destroyed every single corny Marvel movie trope and left swag and razor sharp writing in the wake
panopticon
Superstar
Not at all.
Switzerland didn't worry about the Nazis rolling through Europe, and they did just fine. They're about as close to the European equivalent of Wakanda as you can get - protected by massive mountains, possessing enormous technological capabilities, tremendous wealth, and a population living at a very high standard of living.
When you see neighboring states being conquered, your first priority should be to improve your ability to defend yourself.
It's a generally foolish, thankless, and ultimately fruitless effort to try and defend others incapable or unwilling to defend themselves. If you're a real nation, you possess the capability to defend yourself - or you've entered into diplomatic exchanges with other countries to guarantee collective security. The way you enter into those exchanges is by offering something of genuine value in return for protection. If you can't offer anything of value, then a genuine commitment to improving your economic situation should be your top priority.
It's every nation for themselves out there.
You want it to be one way, but it's the other way.
The game is the game.
Gonna see the movie when I get a chance, but ultimately I'm glad Killmonger didn't win. Why???This is the same universe with people a lot more powerful than BP. Had he went to war, Killmonger would need to come up with strategies other Marvel heavyweight villains couldn't.