Chadwick Boseman says T’Challa is the enemy in Black Panther

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Not at all.

Switzerland didn't worry about the Nazis rolling through Europe, and they did just fine. They're about as close to the European equivalent of Wakanda as you can get - protected by massive mountains, possessing enormous technological capabilities, tremendous wealth, and a population living at a very high standard of living.

When you see neighboring states being conquered, your first priority should be to improve your ability to defend yourself.

It's a generally foolish, thankless, and ultimately fruitless effort to try and defend others incapable or unwilling to defend themselves. If you're a real nation, you possess the capability to defend yourself - or you've entered into diplomatic exchanges with other countries to guarantee collective security. The way you enter into those exchanges is by offering something of genuine value in return for protection. If you can't offer anything of value, then a genuine commitment to improving your economic situation should be your top priority.

It's every nation for themselves out there. :manny::manny:

You want it to be one way, but it's the other way. :ufdup::ufdup:

The game is the game. :wow:


:what:NAZIS ARE CACS
AND THE SWISS ARE CACS.

YOUR COMPARISON DOESNT MAKE SENSE.

HAD AFRICANS TRIED TO TAKE OVER EUROPE
EVERY COUNTRY IN THAT bytch
WOULD HAVE GUNNED UP.
:devil:
:evil:

 

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We were talking about this in the film room. He was right, even in the movie T'Challa acknowledges he was right and ends up helping black people at the end of the movie.



It kills me when cats pick and choose panels from the comics showing Kilmonger saying stuff like this but then skip or be completely in the dark about the part where in the comics he's the leader of his own technologically advanced city in wakanda with billions of dollars and tech at his disposal but doesn't do shyt else but try to annoy T'Challa and take over the rest of Wakand out of spite. Then when he did it the first fukking thing he did was try to join the Avengers :pachaha:

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lol how did BP help black people? by building community centers? lol smh.
 

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Tchalla still never yielded.

Tchalla was a fair man who gave him a chance because of tradition. Do you honestly think if anybody challenged killmonger he would give them the fair one without powers.


Don’t be a groupie both men are flawed.
their whole fighting system for kingship is retarded anyways. "He never yielded and didnt died!!!" lol so what about knockouts then? like if im fighting someone and knock him out, he didnt die or surrender, what happens then? Do i not win?? The fukk lol
 

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Killmonger was a bad leader, there's no 2 ways about it.

You incite a civil war within your 2nd day?
Decide to sent military grade weapons to people with no military training?
Decide to incite world war 3 with no concurrent plan of action just all out blood shed?
You let your rage cloud your judgement just for vengeance?

Dude would have been red lion at that point because that literally what he is in the DC universe
 

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Killmonger was a bad leader, there's no 2 ways about it.

You incite a civil war within your 2nd day?
Decide to sent military grade weapons to people with no military training?
Decide to incite world war 3 with no concurrent plan of action just all out blood shed?
You let your rage cloud your judgement just for vengeance?

Dude would have been red lion at that point because that literally what he is in the DC universe

 

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:yeshrug: You simply can't argue this, the way he executed his plan was trash and would have left wakanda crippled. Lets say he succeeded in killing T'Challa in that last fight best believe half of wakanda would have separated and destroyed themselves in a civil war.

shyt like this has happened in real life in African Nations but I wouldn't except y'all to understand. Passport gang sees all

There are better and effective ways to achieve liberation, inciting a war where everyone is not on board is the last thing you want to do
 

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Not at all.

Switzerland didn't worry about the Nazis rolling through Europe, and they did just fine. They're about as close to the European equivalent of Wakanda as you can get - protected by massive mountains, possessing enormous technological capabilities, tremendous wealth, and a population living at a very high standard of living.

When you see neighboring states being conquered, your first priority should be to improve your ability to defend yourself.

It's a generally foolish, thankless, and ultimately fruitless effort to try and defend others incapable or unwilling to defend themselves. If you're a real nation, you possess the capability to defend yourself - or you've entered into diplomatic exchanges with other countries to guarantee collective security. The way you enter into those exchanges is by offering something of genuine value in return for protection. If you can't offer anything of value, then a genuine commitment to improving your economic situation should be your top priority.

It's every nation for themselves out there. :manny::manny:

You want it to be one way, but it's the other way. :ufdup::ufdup:

The game is the game. :wow:
Your analogy only makes sense because you deliberately ignore race. It’s easy for Switzerland to stay neutral in white on white beefs. Now imagine Hitler was a black man and he was leading a coalition of African countries stampeding across Europe conquering neighboring countries, colonizing white people. Still think Switzerland remains neutral knowing their about a century more advanced than the African countries technologically?


Again, it’s amazing the leaps and bounds that you c00ns leap to to not support a killmonger type character in a fantasy make believe world.
 

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So crazy that I STILL haven't watched that movie. I have to make time when I'm off of my next rotation.
 

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The more I think about it, the more I think Okoye and the Dora Milaje DID commit treason and rebelled against the King. TChalla never officially yeilded, HOWEVER Killmonger didn’t grant request for a rematch, but technically the fight was still on because: TChalla didn’t die, and TChalla never officially yield. You can say that Forest yeilded for him, but that’s not still an official yeild.

But Killmonger was still declared King. Killmonger never granted a request for a rematch. Okoye rebelled because she thought she that he wasn’t the right fit for king, saying “your heart is evil” or something like that. It’s not in her right to decide whose king or not. Eric won fair and square. There was a technicality but he was still declared king.

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Imagine if T’Challa beat Killmonger in the first fight and Zuri stopped T’Challa from killing Erik out of pity and guilt.

Then gave Erik the heart shaped herb to heal him.

Then Erik came back to challenge T’Challa again because he never “yielded”. And Erik ended up killing T’Challa in the second fight instead. Also Erik chose an unfair location to fight that gave him an upper hand instead of neutral ground. Basically the whole story reversed.

Wakanda would be SALTY :mjlol:

And they’d be trying to brand Zuri as a traitor but the same line of events is okay and fair for T’Challa :mjlol:
 

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I'll just end by saying Killmonger was right and had the right intentions, but his means to achieve his ideas were garbage if his decision making skills weren't so trash I would have been down with him 100% as a character
 

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I'll just end by saying Killmonger was right and had the right intentions, but his means to achieve his ideas were garbage if his decision making skills weren't so trash I would have been down with him 100% as a character

That's exactly the point some people are missing. Killmonger was emotional as hell. He was filled with rage and desired revenge. However, his intentions were good. An illogical man can not rule his people. His actions contradicted his mindset. He lacked compassionate for his own people. He hated his oppressors more.
 
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