Centrist Democrats Want A Presidential Candidate To Take On Bernie. They Just Don’t Know Who It Is.

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

If he does win rest assured it will be because of simple mothafukkas like you stuck on an illogical ideology wet dream and refuse to come down to reality...

4.4 million Obama voters stayed home or voted third party, many of them democrat voting moderates like me because your politics drove them away...

I hope the party distances themselves from the extremists or we're fukked with more Trump...

hate to break it to you, but we a society need to go as left as possible, otherwise we're gonna be living like Elysium in 30 years.

but keep thinking 'fair and balance' is the key with winning elections, when people clearly want better economic policies.

 

[Pressure]

Exactly, why not just extend it four more years? Is that difficult?
We're not educating people successfully so let's stop trying? Is that the logic? lol

I think you'll see a lot of lawsuits from the for profit education system that'll water this down like Obamacare as I mentioned with @FAH1223.

It'll be reduced down as a tax and it'll be tough to implement. Doesn't mean you shouldn't try and I'm on board but I'm more speaking on how little is discussed behind the ideas themselves

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I think you'll see a lot of lawsuits from the for profit education system that'll water this down like Obamacare as I mentioned with @FAH1223.

It'll be reduced down as a tax and it'll be tough to implement. Doesn't mean you shouldn't try and I'm on board but I'm more speaking on how little is discussed behind the ideas themselves

That's fine and all but we're not talking about governing and it being perfect when implemented. We're talking about running an election and what your policy position is while doing so.

 

[Pressure]

That's fine and all but we're not talking about governing and it being perfect when implemented. We're talking about running an election and what your policy position is while doing so.

Right. But you crucify Obama for being weak on the implementation ....

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

I also 100% agree with you on real tax reform, the system been broken and abused by the wealthy...They absolutely should be taxed more, currently the only people losing in this country is the diminishing middle class...Now that doesn't mean I support taxing the super rich so you can live off them which is what you want to do...No, what I want is FAIR and BALANCED taxation across the board...

so you want to tax the rich more, but not too much

that sounds perfectly reasonable

so, since the rich have much more than enough to fund healthcare and education for the whole country, i recommend taxing them enough to do that

 

[Mook]

Tax the rich at 90%. Idiots think earning = right to keep. Billionaires can't keep all thst money cause the economy only moves when you spend money.


They have to be taxes high cause it's impossible for them to spend it all and it's necessary to get that money back.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Right. But you crucify Obama for being weak on the implementation ....

He had the votes for single payer (over 50) but Dems somehow insist on a super majority. Why?! Republicans don't.

 

[JJ Evans]

What was once considered conservative is now considered centrist. The Tea Party came in and moved the republican party so “far right”, their once conservative views are now seen by them as liberal leaning.

I know that it’s not easy, but don’t fall for this trick. It was done to make what was once normal progressive and liberal policies appear to be crazy and way out of the mainstream.

 

[ROLLTIDE4EVER]

Political labeling is always a dangerous game. I'd rather have Grover Cleveland than Woodrow Wilson, but most coli posters on this board will go for the warmonger just b/c he's a progressive.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

What's the difference between providing universal healthcare and free college? Having a more intelligent and healthy population would be a benefit to you and them. And really we could cut the military budget by 200 billion and still have the biggest military in the world and pay for both universal healthcare and free college.
Other than that you sound like a Republican on some Ayn Rand shyt. Why are you so begrudging of poor people?! You sound like you really want to be a deadbeat unproductive person and are mad at them for doing it on some, "That's not fair!" shyt. Is all the public works done for you charity? Picking up your garbage, cleaning your community, building and maintaining your roads etc. Why do you deserve that and other people don't deserve food, shelter, education etc.?

You liberals have a big problem with the word RESPONSIBILITY...

You don't like to take any for yourselves...

Healthcare IMO is a necessity the government is responsible for providing to its people...Putting your ass through HIGHER EDUCATION is NOT a necessity that is the governments responsibility...Paying your way through college is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY not the tax payers and the governments...Should the government provide assistance programs and encourage it? Absolutely but no free rides regardless if military cuts can pay for it...

In your quasi communist view the government should tax me more to invest in you in hopes you one day become a productive citizen...That's fukking asinine as is calling a left leaning moderate who shyts on Republicans on here daily a Republican, comparing me to Ted Cruz and Ayn Rand of all people because I don't agree with free rides...This is why we call this place #LowerLearning and don't bother engaging yall outside of the Trump Russia thread...It's a waste of time and effort trying to reason with extremist ideologues who don't try to comprehend a dissenting view and slap false labels on people...

Sanitation workers in my city get paid 80k a year to pick up my garbage...Same thing with police, firemen, construction and transportation workers, they WORK and get PAID for their public works...I deserve it because my tax dollars pay for their salaries and that is what we call PRODUCTIVE use of tax dollars...

How the fukk do you even begin to draw parallels between that and taxing me more so unproductive citizens can receive food, shelter and higher education?

If you are mentally and physically able to work, feeding, sheltering and seeking higher education is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY not the governments or the tax payers...I fully support programs funded by the state to help people find work and nobody ever said no to programs that help YOU pay for a higher education...These assistance programs have a far higher chance of producing productive citizens than free handouts which is what you want...Simply put, if you're working you're a productive citizen...Plenty of people work and go to school to improve their situation...I did that, my parents nor the state paid for me...I took responsibility for myself and I PAID FOR ME...

If you continue on this path of wealth distribution and free rides for everybody you will continue losing elections...nobody other than far left extremists agrees with your wealth distribution dystopia...The politicians you vote for don't even believe in it because they know its a nonsense pipe dream, they're just pandering to you for your vote...Just like Rethugs pander to racist idiots for their vote...

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Political labeling is always a dangerous game. I'd rather have Grover Cleveland than Woodrow Wilson, but most coli posters on this board will go for the warmonger just b/c he's a progressive.

Idk about that. The Coli is pretty pacifistic imo

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

You liberals have a big problem with the word RESPONSIBILITY...

You don't like to take any for yourselves...

Healthcare IMO is a necessity the government is responsible for providing to its people...Putting your ass through HIGHER EDUCATION is NOT a necessity that is the governments responsibility...Paying your way through college is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY not the tax payers and the governments...Should the government provide assistance programs and encourage it? Absolutely but no free rides regardless if military cuts can pay for it...

In your quasi communist view the government should tax me more to invest in you in hopes you one day become a productive citizen...That's fukking asinine as is calling a left leaning moderate who shyts on Republicans on here daily a Republican, comparing me to Ted Cruz and Ayn Rand of all people because I don't agree with free rides...This is why we call this place #LowerLearning and don't bother engaging yall outside of the Trump Russia thread...It's a waste of time and effort trying to reason with extremist ideologues who don't try to comprehend a dissenting view and slap false labels on people...

Sanitation workers in my city get paid 80k a year to pick up my garbage...Same thing with police, firemen, construction and transportation workers, they WORK and get PAID for their public works...I deserve it because my tax dollars pay for their salaries and that is what we call PRODUCTIVE use of tax dollars...

How the fukk do you even begin to draw parallels between that and taxing me more so unproductive citizens can receive food, shelter and higher education?

If you are mentally and physically able to work, feeding, sheltering and seeking higher education is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY not the governments or the tax payers...I fully support programs funded by the state to help people find work and nobody ever said no to programs that help YOU pay for a higher education...These assistance programs have a far higher chance of producing productive citizens than free handouts which is what you want...Simply put, if you're working you're a productive citizen...Plenty of people work and go to school to improve their situation...I did that, my parents nor the state paid for me...I took responsibility for myself and I PAID FOR ME...

If you continue on this path of wealth distribution and free rides for everybody you will continue losing elections...nobody other than far left extremists agrees with your wealth distribution dystopia...The politicians you vote for don't even believe in it because they know its a nonsense pipe dream, they're just pandering to you for your vote...Just like Rethugs pander to racist idiots for their vote...

I don't know how much I agree with your personal stances but I can attest to this post representing the mindset of plenty of people and perhaps the majority of americans

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

I don't know how much I agree with your personal stances but I can attest to this post representing the mindset of plenty of people and perhaps the majority of americans

You don't have to agree with me fam, if you want to beat Trump and the Rethugs you just have to come down to reality, listen and meet towards the middle...

Case and point the dude who won in PA...

Ain't nobody but hardcore liberals going to vote for no borders and free rides for everyone because the other option is Trump...Moderates will stay home again just like they did in 2016 and that only benefits the Rethugs who have gerrymandered the fukk out of this country...

 

[mastermind]

Political labeling is always a dangerous game. I'd rather have Grover Cleveland than Woodrow Wilson, but most coli posters on this board will go for the warmonger just b/c he's a progressive.

Racist Woodrow Wilson is progressive?

The right have moved so far right that eventually voting will be seen as progressive.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

"you liberals"

"free rides"

the election season shilling has kicked into full gear