Carlos Santana: "America needs a serious dose of African music right now."

[Gains]

America needs to jump on the Afrobeats wave starting with Fuse ODG

"Your love is a kiiiillllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

you late breh

 

[Apollo Creed]

Soukous from Congo aka African Rumba aka Champeta in Colombia

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Aside from the instruments used, what influence did Europe have on Jazz's origins?

None. lol. this is exactly what im talking about. This whole "Europe" thing comes from jealous cacs trying to "ancient Egypt" black American music

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Of course they are not. But black people in the U.S. have abandoned rock & roll to the point where if they hear a young black kid jamming to or even playing rock & roll they are called sellouts and "white".

This is why I love seeing The Roots Perform live. Their shows integrate hiphop, jazz, rock & roll and r&b.

I have to agree with this. Until recently, nikkas could barely be "different" within the realm of hip hop, let alone make rock

By the 1970's rock was done for us. Cats barely even fukked with jimi hendrix

 

[bouncy]

I have to agree with this. Until recently, nikkas could barely be "different" within the realm of hip hop, let alone make rock

By the 1970's rock was done for us. Cats barely even fukked with jimi hendrix

But they fukked with "funkadelic" and "sly and the family stone". That was basically funk mixed with rock n roll. Again showing blacks just create something else when what we originally had gets taken over or watered down. That can be a good or a bad thing but its what happens with us here in the u.s.a.

Rappers were different in hip hop before it got extremely commercialized. Notice how when the records stop selling you started hearing rappers flow in different style of voices and being more character driven(around 2010. Especially southern artists) then when it was at its peak in record sells(1999-2002). They were rapping like rappers did before the big success but a being a better, updated version. Its the drive to sell to white kids thatmfukk up black music, not necessarily the black artist being in a box. Yeah, a lot of us do put ourselves in a box but a lot don't. Truth be told a lot of white kids love it when black artist go out of the box but the companies like to have the same old repetative image of black music that it never changes if its in the mainstream.

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

I liked his page on fb. Santana we blam blammers

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

I liked his page on fb. Santana we blam blammers

 

[BrownSound]

dap +rep

i looove that song, that guitar

 

[intruder]

I have to agree with this. Until recently, nikkas could barely be "different" within the realm of hip hop, let alone make rock

By the 1970's rock was done for us. Cats barely even fukked with jimi hendrix

Exactly!

I dont think black people understand how much they fukked up by abandoning rock & roll. You invented the shyt. So what if it's being saturated by whites. It's your sh!t. Build up on it and let the biters do what they do.

Another black artists who used to make a lot of dope rock joints was Prince . Not sure where he made the wrong turn and and said fukk it. Sometimes around purple rain. He probably seen the light and felt that black people wouldnt support him as much if he went 100% roc&roll

But let me stop talking before @lotty declares that i'm dissing his peoples just making an observation.

 

[intruder]

But they fukked with "funkadelic" and "sly and the family stone". That was basically funk mixed with rock n roll. Again showing blacks just create something else when what we originally had gets taken over or watered down. That can be a good or a bad thing but its what happens with us here in the u.s.a.

Rappers were different in hip hop before it got extremely commercialized. Notice how when the records stop selling you started hearing rappers flow in different style of voices and being more character driven(around 2010. Especially southern artists) then when it was at its peak in record sells(1999-2002). They were rapping like rappers did before the big success but a being a better, updated version. Its the drive to sell to white kids thatmfukk up black music, not necessarily the black artist being in a box. Yeah, a lot of us do put ourselves in a box but a lot don't. Truth be told a lot of white kids love it when black artist go out of the box but the companies like to have the same old repetative image of black music that it never changes if its in the mainstream.

I used to love hiphop. Not trying to sound cliche on some "i used to love her" type steez but seriously. It was exciting. The lyrics, the beats that were blends of various genres. Even international genres were mixed in (See React by Redman and Eric Sermon as an example and many RZA and Wyclef produced joints).

But lately the shyt has gotten to the point where every beat sounds the same. Some slow, piano ridden shyt with some underlying percussions with some bullshyt R&B feel to it
This is why lately i've fallen back to listening strictly caribbean joints. I still jam to some of my old hiphop stuff at times (KRS-One, The Roots, Mos Def, De La Soul, Lupe, Blackalicious and OUtkast) but for the most part I've given up on hiphop.
As for the recent R&B shyts... don't even get me started

 

[Oztradamus]

Carlos Santana = Mexican Excellence

 

[bouncy]

I used to love hiphop. Not trying to sound cliche on some "i used to love her" type steez but seriously. It was exciting. The lyrics, the beats that were blends of various genres. Even international genres were mixed in (See React by Redman and Eric Sermon as an example and many RZA and Wyclef produced joints).

But lately the shyt has gotten to the point where every beat sounds the same. Some slow, piano ridden shyt with some underlying percussions with some bullshyt R&B feel to it
This is why lately i've fallen back to listening strictly caribbean joints. I still jam to some of my old hiphop stuff at times (KRS-One, The Roots, Mos Def, De La Soul, Lupe, Blackalicious and OUtkast) but for the most part I've given up on hiphop.
As for the recent R&B shyts... don't even get me started

Its cool, nothing groundbreaking but cool. My point was the delivery and flows of the rhymes, notmthe beats. Back in the day around 1986-1996, rappers used to be different with their flows and delivery. Slick rick, for example, would rhyme in different accents throughout the song to describe different people or situations. This is what helped make his music nice. Rappers stopped doing tnis once it got real big, everythig became serious and the music wasnt playful anymore at least on the rappers end. Around 2010 that changed ,and southern artists really got it rolling again. Dancehall artists dtayed doing it and that is what keeps their music fun on the chatters end.

 

[intruder]

Its cool, nothing groundbreaking but cool. My point was the delivery and flows of the rhymes, notmthe beats. Back in the day around 1986-1996, rappers used to be different with their flows and delivery. Slick rick, for example, would rhyme in different accents throughout the song to describe different people or situations. This is what helped make his music nice. Rappers stopped doing tnis once it got real big, everythig became serious and the music wasnt playful anymore at least on the rappers end. Around 2010 that changed ,and southern artists really got it rolling again. Dancehall artists dtayed doing it and that is what keeps their music fun on the chatters end.

I hear ya. Slick Rick's prime was a but before my infatuation with rap began but i still love a lot of his joint. I'm more of a KRS-One guy from that era.

BTW when i say caribbean music i dont mean DanceHall or just reggae. If anything reggae is probably what i listen to the least. Dancehall (except for a few artists) evntually worked their way into my shyt list too. Heck i can appreciate more merengue and salsa artist than i do some reggae heads these days. But i stick to Zouk, Socca, Kompa , Calypso and even some Rasin for the most part.

 

[bouncy]

Exactly!

I dont think black people understand how much they fukked up by abandoning rock & roll. You invented the shyt. So what if it's being saturated by whites. It's your sh!t. Build up on it and let the biters do what they do.

Another black artists who used to make a lot of dope rock joints was Prince . Not sure where he made the wrong turn and and said fukk it. Sometimes around purple rain. He probably seen the light and felt that black people wouldnt support him as much if he went 100% roc&roll

But let me stop talking before @lotty declares that i'm dissing his peoples just making an observation.

You're wrong though, they didnt abandon it they reinvented it. Like I stated previously, blacks loved funkadelic, sly and the family stone, and other types of artists like them. What you fail to realize is the relationship between blacks and whites at that time was not cool, as well as record companies were being foul with black artists and putting white people on album covers and the artists were black. Once the 70's came around it was about saying fukk the system, and by that time whites came to rock'n'roll in droves. Blacks just said fukk it and created other genres while still using elements of rock'n'roll. What makes a rock song is the electric guitar, black took it and incorportated it with other instruments and you had funk being created, and even disco. The only difference is the guitar isnt the main instrument like rock'n'roll. You have to look at why things happened to see what happened in its total truth.

To me if blacks didnt abandon rock'n'roll there is a good chance we wouldnt have hip hop because rap music and even some of the style of dress came from disco with a little bit of funk. You also wouldnt have house music, that spawned into this big EDM craze we are seeing now because those came from disco as well.

 

[Flay Mayweather]

Exactly!

I dont think black people understand how much they fukked up by abandoning rock & roll. You invented the shyt. So what if it's being saturated by whites. It's your sh!t. Build up on it and let the biters do what they do.

Another black artists who used to make a lot of dope rock joints was Prince . Not sure where he made the wrong turn and and said fukk it. Sometimes around purple rain. He probably seen the light and felt that black people wouldnt support him as much if he went 100% roc&roll

But let me stop talking before @lotty declares that i'm dissing his peoples just making an observation.

You're not wrong for your opinion since its right. All music in America after the 1900s was black influenced. Its common knowledge even people with B.M's can agree to it whether they like black people or not.


African music is going to be very popular in the next decade in States. There is going to a big increase in the African population in US and they're going to support their music from back home.