Captain Marvel (Official Thread) March 8th 2019: 7th Marvel Film To Cross 1B$

[Alexander The Great]

yeah, the movie wasn't really that good. I wonder how many people went to see it just for the connection between Infinity War and Endgame.

 

[Trapperman Dave]

Was nice seeing fury before he became all cool and suave. Making mistakes like everyone else

 

[Trapperman Dave]

wasn't really enough twists and turns for that. The movie you expect from the trailers is what it was ultimately.

I was asking for people who hadn’t seen it yet don’t wanna ruin it for them

 

[ColdSlither]

Y’all ain’t started the spoiler thread yet?

It really doesn't need one. This movie isn't necessary to watch before Endgame. It really is filler just to introduce Captain Marvel.

 

[NobodyReally]

I honestly think people would have rated this higher if the lead was a man. Any time you have a minority or female as the lead, you had to be at a 10 for people rate it as excellent. fukking Aquaman was not a great movie but people love Mamoa. If Aquaman had been Aquawoman, people would not be copping pleas for all of its shortcomings. That's just how I feel about it.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I honestly think people would have rated this higher if the lead was a man. Any time you have a minority or female as the lead, you had to be at a 10 for people rate it as excellent. fukking Aquaman was not a great movie but people love Mamoa. If Aquaman had been Aquawoman, people would not be copping pleas for all of its shortcomings. That's just how I feel about it.

I think we need to slow down on the “people love Mamoa”

Gotta see what he does and how after this film, cuz before the other than GOT he was relatively unknown.

I think the movie was just flashy and decent enough and it did well

Martha

 

[Rell84shots]

I honestly think people would have rated this higher if the lead was a man. Any time you have a minority or female as the lead, you had to be at a 10 for people rate it as excellent. fukking Aquaman was not a great movie but people love Mamoa. If Aquaman had been Aquawoman, people would not be copping pleas for all of its shortcomings. That's just how I feel about it.

Wonder Woman had flaws but it was still critically acclaimed, and a lot of cac men loved that movie. I'm not about to sit up here and make white women out to be a part of the oppressed group. Brie Larson is coming into the most successful comic franchise as the strongest character in said franchise. As great as Black Panther was T'Challa was punked out in his own film, and he was more established than CM.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

I honestly think people would have rated this higher if the lead was a man. Any time you have a minority or female as the lead, you had to be at a 10 for people rate it as excellent. fukking Aquaman was not a great movie but people love Mamoa. If Aquaman had been Aquawoman, people would not be copping pleas for all of its shortcomings. That's just how I feel about it.

While I kinda see what you're saying there, cuz the same to some degree is/was done with Black Panther and black male lead type of movies as well, I think the comparison with Aquaman was less about the lead and more about the fluff of style, action and cgi/cinematography. Also, with Mamao being Polynesian rather than a white male lead, that could've been a slight against him as well. But overall, as aforementioned, the adoration of that movie seems to be less on him...outside of him being a sex symbol to women.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Wonder Woman had flaws but it was still critically acclaimed, and a lot of cac men loved that movie. I'm not about to sit up here and make white women out to be a part of the oppressed group. Brie Larson is coming into the most successful comic franchise as the strongest character in said franchise. As great as Black Panther was T'Challa was punked out in his own film, and he was more established than CM.

“Punked out?”


I find that very interesting you say that cause it raises a very intriguing question.

In your personal opinion what is the greater or best balance?

Cuz when Marvel has done movies where the hero’s are strong it’s “well their villains are weak and forgettable, they have weak villains”

And now when some movies the villains are stronger, on par with the hero’s and can give them a run for their money it’s “they Hero was punked out”

So what’s the best approach?

Martha

 

[MartyMcFly]

I honestly think people would have rated this higher if the lead was a man. Any time you have a minority or female as the lead, you had to be at a 10 for people rate it as excellent. fukking Aquaman was not a great movie but people love Mamoa. If Aquaman had been Aquawoman, people would not be copping pleas for all of its shortcomings. That's just how I feel about it.

Part of what you’re saying is 1000% true about movies with minorities or female leads having to be home runs or else the knives come out. It should be OK for a movie with a minority lead to just be ok or average or just merely good. Not every movie has to be a home run. This movie is a solid double with an rbi. Not a damn thing wrong with that

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

Part of what you’re saying is 1000% true about movies with minorities or female leads having to be home runs or else the knives come out. It should be OK for a movie with a minority lead to just be ok or average or just merely good. Not every movie has to be a home run. This movie is a solid double with an rbi. Not a damn thing wrong with that

Right. I very much agree on this. It's the age-old double standard of us blacks having to Fly in the same lanes that white people can merely jog on to get the same level of acclaim. Women do also share that with minorities as well. Always has been the case. Case in point with some folks reception to CM, which is for most unbiased folks, a solid 7-8/10, but due to the double-standard, since it's not an undeniable 10, it's getting treated as it was a 2, by the ones that stand by those biasedness, in one capacity or another (the other being Marvel current standard), whether they do it knowingly or not.

“Punked out?”


I find that very interesting you say that cause it raises a very intriguing question.

In your personal opinion what is the greater or best balance?

Cuz when Marvel has done movies where the hero’s are strong it’s “well their villains are weak and forgettable, they have weak villains”

And now when some movies the villains are stronger, on par with the hero’s and can give them a run for their money it’s “they Hero was punked out”

So what’s the best approach?

Martha

I think you misunderstand what he means by punked out. It's not so much by the villain or solely by the villain, it's that in BP, T'Challa/BP as a character, was written to have been undersold in compared to a lot of the rest of the cast. Or at least it can be very seriously debated upon, which definitely shouldn't have been the case. BP's moments in the movie were mostly more subtle, to the point where it was almost totally downplayed in favor of sharing the spotlight with the rest of the cast. Even among heavy BP comic fans, a lot of us felt that way, to some extents as least.

 

[mr.africa]

went to the cinema, the line was too fukking long
never seen that shyt before.
went home.
will watch some other day

 

[Bryan Danielson]

went to the cinema, the line was too fukking long
never seen that shyt before.
went home.
will watch some other day

My G

Trynna see that IMAX 3D viewing.

Cuz I find it hard to believe (per the detractors in here) either that was the only screen in your theater you went to or all the others were sold out too (IMAX to Standard).

Pay that top dollar for this my G

Martha

 

[MostHatedBox]

My girl didnt want to see this with me.

Pops gave me the when I asked him to come check this out with me.

None of my homies even responded in the group chat


Im in this theater by my damn self


Marvel gang

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

“Punked out?”


I find that very interesting you say that cause it raises a very intriguing question.

In your personal opinion what is the greater or best balance?

Cuz when Marvel has done movies where the hero’s are strong it’s “well their villains are weak and forgettable, they have weak villains”

And now when some movies the villains are stronger, on par with the hero’s and can give them a run for their money it’s “they Hero was punked out”

So what’s the best approach?

Martha

Part two of my reply to your post with IMO best approach answer. In the sequel, BP needs to have a couple of clearly defined, unshared hero moments that aren't marred by other issues like bad CGI, too dark to see action or cut-aways to other characters during his action sequences or saves by other characters stealing his shine. All that happened in the first one and while they can and should still definitely give the rest of the cast moments to shine as well, BP's shine should undeniably shine brightest.

I had an idea of some things they could do. Have him be totally separated from the everyone else, just fighting, uninterrupted for a good 4-5 minute fight sequence or two with either a lot of folks or someone on par with him, but him turning it up and getting some clear wins to show how bad ass he can be. LIke, I picture them doing a hallway sequence a la Daredevil/Oldboy, but turned up to where he's fighting like 50+ people and doing all sorts of ill shyt, all on his own to beat them.

This hero moments aren't just relegated to action pieces either (albeit this is where it's needed most in the sequel) but also, some really strong character moments as well to show BP's cunning, strategy and other strong character attributes, but not be as subtle as they were in the first movie. Moments like him yelling to Zuri, "I AM YOUR KING NOW" should happen a few more times. Not necessarily with him yelling at anyone, but showcasing his sauveness and intellect directly, and shot in a sense where's there's no question about it.

But also, combining the two of action + the right dialogue would be great as well. Something like this moment needs to be in the sequel for certain:



There were hints of this in Civil War, but that wasn't his movie. Should be turned up in his movie.

My fault tho, I'm rather going off thread topic here now, lol. But to bring it back tho, even CM, as a lesser known character and definitely lower quality movie, had more moments displaying her badassery than BP did in his intro film. That part of Captain Marvel, they did do pretty well by her.