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Lets says she does have the serum. Does that make getting the serum a good argument though?
Her movie was trash. And people in here already saying that the thunderbolts looks mid and its full of super soldiers.

They never actually said she didn't have powers. We know the red room experimented and kept secrets from her. They also used mind control.

If she didn't have powers, she would have died a few times in the first Avengers.
 

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The original plan was for her to be superpowered and to be representation for people with dwarfism as a superhero.

She most likely had Giancarlo’s action role of hunting down Sam before then joining him in the final fight against Red Hulk.
Oh aight. This explains some things
 

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Lets says she does have the serum. Does that make getting the serum a good argument though?
Her movie was trash. And people in here already saying that the thunderbolts looks mid and its full of super soldiers.

IT WOULD EXPLAIN HOW
SHE WAS ABLE TO TAKE ON
THE BLACK ORDER WITHOUT
BEING KILLED IN A MATTER OF SECONDS

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WELL THEY BEGAN PLAYING IN OUR FACE
AND SHE WAS DEFEATING THANOS
TOP DISCIPLES BY INFINITY WAR.

THEY CLEARLY SUPED HER UP
WHETHER THEY WANT TO ADMIT IT OR NOT

:devil:
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No they didn't. One thing I'll def give marvel credit for is how carefully they crafted MCU Widows fighting style

Go back and watch her fights. She's not sending grown men flying with a punch. Her style involved a lot of momentum based moves and kicks. And she spammed the shyt out of them leg locks:russ:

She fought only one of Thanos disciples in Inf War, and she used weapons and teammates to do it

The movies go out of their way to show you Natasha has no powers
 

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No they didn't. One thing I'll def give marvel credit for is how carefully they crafted MCU Widows fighting style

Go back and watch her fights. She's not sending grown men flying with a punch. Her style involved a lot of momentum based moves and kicks. And she spammed the shyt out of them leg locks:russ:

She fought only one of Thanos disciples in Inf War, and she used weapons and teammates to do it

The movies go out of their way to show you Natasha has no powers

EVEN WITH THE WEAPON
SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO TOUCH ANYONE OF THEM
NOR DODGE THEIR STRIKES
IN CLOSE RANGE COMBAT.

SHE SMOKED THAT FIRST DUDE
BASICALLY DOLO
AND WAS SPARING WITH THE
SECOND CHICK MAKING MISS
HER LIGHTNING FAST STRIKES
:devil:
:evil:
 

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EVEN WITH THE WEAPON
SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO TOUCH ANYONE OF THEM
NOR DODGE THEIR STRIKES
IN CLOSE RANGE COMBAT.

SHE SMOKED THAT FIRST DUDE
BASICALLY DOLO
AND WAS SPARING WITH THE
SECOND CHICK MAKING MISS
HER LIGHTNING FAST STRIKES
:devil:
:evil:

Why not? Them nikkas weren't presented as anything extraordinary outside of being big as hell

If we talking about Natasha holding her own against Ebony Maw and his magic then that would be ridiculous
 

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The original plan was for her to be superpowered and to be representation for people with dwarfism as a superhero.

She most likely had Giancarlo’s action role of hunting down Sam before then joining him in the final fight against Red Hulk.
LMAO she's not a dwarf, she's just a skinny small actress who's body had developmental issues due to childhood cancer.
 

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EVEN WITH THE WEAPON
SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO TOUCH ANYONE OF THEM
NOR DODGE THEIR STRIKES
IN CLOSE RANGE COMBAT.

SHE SMOKED THAT FIRST DUDE
BASICALLY DOLO
AND WAS SPARING WITH THE
SECOND CHICK MAKING MISS
HER LIGHTNING FAST STRIKES
:devil:
:evil:

Man it was ridiculous that Hawkeye was surviving using technology from the 10th century
 

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No they didn't. One thing I'll def give marvel credit for is how carefully they crafted MCU Widows fighting style

Go back and watch her fights. She's not sending grown men flying with a punch.

Her style involved a lot of momentum based moves and kicks.

and punches .. which is not realistic.

she is sending grown men backwards with single punches.

and she punches them such that they are stunned and unable to move or forced back - which is unrealistic for a woman her size.

and she takes impacts/forces without injury which suggests increased durability.

And she spammed the shyt out of them leg locks:russ:

She fought only one of Thanos disciples in Inf War, and she used weapons and teammates to do it

The movies go out of their way to show you Natasha has no powers

it's borderline. left as an open question.

the MCU openly pointed out that hawkeye was "underpowered" i.e. using just "a bow and arrow" multiple times.

they never said anything similar about black widow.

widow survived an explosion which is impossible for a normal human.



she then punches a man 2 to 3 times her weight back three times, without leverage or mechanical assistance.



she supports her body weight one handed on a vehicle that is travelling at least 50 mph.



here she twists the gun out of his hands against the two handed force of the soldier



here she falls 100ft onto concrete (with 4 impacts on the way down) with no harm



here she blocks a full force attack from a guard 2 - 3 times her size with one arm



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ignoring fast cuts (hollywood) and narrative license for her acts of offensive strength, there remains the issue of her enhanced durability.

no amount of red room training (fighting style) takes your durability beyond normal human limits.
 

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I actually enjoyed this. I haven't seen an MCU movie since Shang Chi.

Didn't really feel that all over the place cept for Echo One.

Show them getting gear only to walk in with street clothes and the Shield. Plus, how the hell did the Security chick get there that fast?!

I'm cool with Sam using Talk-no-jitsu on Ross, but he only gets to do that once.

Hopefully he gets some good upgrades from the Wakandans or Stark Industries.
"Always feeling like you got something to prove" :wow:

Not the worst. Not Winter Soldier, but I can see myself watching it again vs. something like Thor 2 or Iron Man 3
 
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