#CaneloCartel Drops Another Body: The Official Canelo Alvarez vs Miguel Cotto Thread (November 21St)

Who You With (bernie Mac voice)?

  • Canelo via KO (Man-down for the PR legend)

    Votes: 48 30.6%
  • Canelo via Decision (We'll take that)

    Votes: 45 28.7%
  • Cotto via KO (Young Dogs get put down)

    Votes: 17 10.8%
  • Cotto via Decision (The Sage uses his wits)

    Votes: 59 37.6%
  • Herrea and Peterson won (Danny fukked my bytch in her mouth)

    Votes: 6 3.8%
  • fukk the lakers/celtics #Knickstape

    Votes: 20 12.7%

  • Total voters
    157

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Saw kneeguel gettin $30 mil :leon: no wonder he keeps talkin "im the A side" mix that wit the WBC sayin winner has to fight winner of #shookboys & la whatever the fuk, throw on top cinnamon gas issues.
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Margarito Feels Canelo Can Knock Cotto Out in Ten

Posted by: Miguel Rivera on 8/19/2015 .

By Miguel Rivera

Comebacking former champion Antonio Margarito of Mexico feels confident that his countryman, Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, has what it takes to defeat, and knock out, WBC middleweight champion Miguel Cotto.

Canelo and Cotto will face each other in a highly anticipated fight on November 21 at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

Margarito has faced Cotto on two occasions, stopped the Puerto Rican fighter the first time in 2008 and then got stopped himself in their 2011 rematch.

"Some time ago I think the team of Canelo was angry because I said I thought that he would not be able to beat Floyd Mayweather, but now I think he has everything to gain. I even think he can knock [Cotto] out in about 10 rounds or win on points, but he will win," said Margarito to ESPN Deportes.

"Unlike many other people, I think Canelo has indeed improved. We've seen him get better and I think this fight comes at a time that suits him. He is young, strong, fast."

Margarito says Cotto, since joining up with Freddie Roach, is "more of a boxer and more calculating" but he hasn't noticed "much of a difference." He discounts any notion that Cotto punches any harder and says Canelo is the bigger hitter between the two.
 

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calling brother nazim a liar? :usure:

Naazim Richardson admits that Margarito may not have even known what was in his gloves though.:sas1:

Antonio Margarito and the Handwrap Issue
By Thomas Hauser


...Capetillo testified at the hearing that he prepared Margarito’s knuckle pads in the dressing room at the Staples Center and put them on top of the contents in his training bag. Then, when it was time to wrap, he pulled the wrong knuckle pads out of his bag by mistake. He further testified that the confiscated pads had most likely been used by another boxer while hitting the heavy bag in the gym.

“They just throw their things in my bag,” Capetillo told the commission.

The following colloquy exemplifies his testimony:

Q: Is this the kind of pad you usually use in a championship fight?

Capetillo: No, sir.

Q: Have you ever used a pad like that in a professional boxing fight?

Capetillo: No, sir.

Q: So is it your testimony that, when you wrapped Mr. Margarito’s hands, you reached into your training bag and grabbed the wrong pad?

Capetillo: That is correct . . . I put my hand in my bag to pull out, they are like little pads. And by mistake, that I had those in my bag, I put them on and I wrapped them on without realizing that it had been a big mistake.

There was no direct evidence that Margarito knew about the inserts inside the knuckle pads; only inference. Antonio denied any knowledge of the inserts, and Capetillo testified, “I commit a big mistake and I acknowledge it. I don’t want that this young man have any problem because he is not at fault. He didn’t realize what I had put on.”
At the close of the February 10, 2009, hearing, the commission voted to revoke each man’s license. It made no finding that Margarito had knowledge of the inserts, but held him responsible for Capetillo’s actions.
In making its determination, the CSAC imposed a doctrine of “strict liability” upon Margarito. That’s similar to the position that most commissions take when a fighter tests positive for an illegal performance enhancing drug. A fighter, the theory goes, is a professional athlete. He’s responsible for his body and his equipment. If someone who works for him puts something illegal into his body or on his hands, the fighter should be held ultimately responsible.
Meanwhile, Margarito’s position boils down to the following: “Capetillo was solely responsible for acquiring the gauze to make the knuckle pads. Margarito was not present when Capetillo prepared the knuckle pads. Margarito was totally unaware that anything improper had been inserted in the knuckle pads.”

Is that possible?

Yes.

The inserts certainly weren’t visible to Margarito. We know that because Naazim Richardson (who was looking for irregularities) saw no visual evidence of them.

Nor is it a given that Margarito would have felt them.

Emanuel Steward, Freddie Roach, Don Turner, and Dan Birmingham have been honored as “Trainer of the Year” nine times by the Boxing Writers Association of America. Pat Burns trained Jermain Taylor for both of his victories over Bernard Hopkins and is a former police detective. Naazim Richardson trains Shane Mosley and is the man who discovered the illegal inserts in Margarito’s knuckle pads.

Their thoughts are instructive:

Dan Birmingham: “My guys watch me closely when I wrap. But what you’re talking about here happens pretty quickly. The pad goes on and then you put more gauze over it. So sure; it’s possible that the fighter wouldn’t know.”

Pat Burns: “Some fighters don’t pay attention when their hands are being wrapped. They’re listening to music or talking to someone or watching a television monitor. And even if they’re watching, they’re not wondering what’s in the knuckle pad. If I wanted to put a few layers of hardened gauze inside a fighter’s knuckle pads, I could and the fighter would never know.”

Freddie Roach: “If I did something like that, which I wouldn’t, I think I could do it without my fighter knowing. And if I was the fighter; Eddie Futch [who trained Roach] would never have done something like that. But if he had, I think he could have kept it secret from me.”

Don Turner: “I wouldn’t do it. I don’t cheat. But if I wanted to, unless what I was putting into the knuckle pad was very heavy, I could do it in a way that the fighter wouldn’t know. Even if the fighter is watching me wrap, he might not know because he wouldn’t see or feel the difference.”

Emanuel Steward: “My experience has been that a fighter watches very closely when his hands are being taped. But in a situation like this, it’s definitely possible that a trainer could put an insert in the knuckle pad without the fighter knowing. When I get in the dressing room before a fight, one of the first things I do is make two knuckle pads and put them on the table. I don’t put them in my bag. I leave them out on the table, and so does every other trainer I know of. So I have a hard time believing that Capetillo took the wrong knuckle pads out of his bag by mistake. But the fighter doesn’t watch me make the knuckle pads. A lot of times, the fighter isn’t even there when I make them. So the fighter wouldn’t know if I put something inside the pads unless I told him or the pads were heavy enough that he could feel a difference.”

Naazim Richardson: “I’m the wrong person to ask about this. If a guy is driving a truck and tries to run my daughter over and misses, don’t ask me what the punishment should be. But to be fair, yes, a fighter might not know.”


Could Antonio Margarito have been complicit in the handwrap scandal?

Yes; but we don’t know that he was. And there’s no way that a fighter in his situation can prove his innocence.


If Margarito knew that his knuckle pads contained illegal inserts, a lifetime ban from boxing would be warranted. But a fighter’s career shouldn’t be terminated on a guess.

Antonio Margarito and the Handwrap Issue



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Even Naazim Richardson admits that Margarito may not have even known what was in his gloves. Margs a cheater...but yet Cotto never sued him and he was suspended for only 1 year? Doesnt sound like punishment fit for someone who was caught cheating :mjpls:
 
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Naazim Richardson admits that Margarito may not have even known what was in his gloves though.:sas1:








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Even Naazim Richardson admits that Margarito may not have even known what was in his gloves. Margs a cheater...but yet Cotto never sued him and he was suspended for only 1 year? Doesnt sound like punishment fit for someone who was caught cheating :mjpls:
racism :troll:
 
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