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Candace Cameron Bure Defends Her "Submissive Role" With Husband: "I Want Him to Lead"
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What many men here are missing and I think what ultimately frustrates them is that they are not worthy of submission
From a Christian standpoint, the husband is described as much more of a servant to the wife than the other way around in the Bible. Christ is described as having servant leadership. But many of the men, especially on the coli, who pine the most for submission seek to do the bare minimum for their woman. So they're really not following the blueprint they're supposed to be, and thus no woman would submit to them in the Christian way. They know he does not have their best interest at heart and his asking for submission is all about ego, and not about uplifting her or taking burden away from her. Most Christian households when done right end up looking a lot like partnerships in this day and age, because the men realize that they are not God to know the best thing to do or deserve the final decision every time, and that 2 heads, both who are educated in the same way nowadays, is better than one.
Now there's another type of submission a lot of coli (insecure) men want, that isn't founded in religion at all. It can really be better categorized as obedience. But the problem those men have is that they simply do not have the financial capability to command that type of reaction from any woman (the type where anything he says goes, he doesn't have to contribute in any other way than being a 'provider' and 'protector'). The way that most marriages of today happen is that both male and female work outside the home, work around the same hours, and have the same level of stress before they even enter the home. So essentially the woman has taken on the man's traditional role in providing, but because of ego the man does not and refuses to take on any parts of the woman's traditional role. A woman would be an idiot to sign up for this, but some do, and after awhile, she gets bogged down in having to carry so much weight in the relationship, resentment builds, and....voila: 80% of divorces initiated by women forced to carry too much weight because of a selfish partner who put his ego before the happiness/comfort of his wife
I agree with you til the bolded...most marriages end over money, not stressed out women with selfish husbands
But, as for that often quoted verse; it also says men are to submit to the Most High as the woman follows them there
Ur right, its not about the man being the boss of the woman
Drummage_EL
Pro
What many men here are missing and I think what ultimately frustrates them is that they are not worthy of submission
From a Christian standpoint, the husband is described as much more of a servant to the wife than the other way around in the Bible. Christ is described as having servant leadership. But many of the men, especially on the coli, who pine the most for submission seek to do the bare minimum for their woman. So they're really not following the blueprint they're supposed to be, and thus no woman would submit to them in the Christian way. They know he does not have their best interest at heart and his asking for submission is all about ego, and not about uplifting her or taking burden away from her. Most Christian households when done right end up looking a lot like partnerships in this day and age, because the men realize that they are not God to know the best thing to do or deserve the final decision every time, and that 2 heads, both who are educated in the same way nowadays, is better than one.
Now there's another type of submission a lot of coli (insecure) men want, that isn't founded in religion at all. It can really be better categorized as obedience. But the problem those men have is that they simply do not have the financial capability to command that type of reaction from any woman (the type where anything he says goes, he doesn't have to contribute in any other way than being a 'provider' and 'protector'). The way that most marriages of today happen is that both male and female work outside the home, work around the same hours, and have the same level of stress before they even enter the home. So essentially the woman has taken on the man's traditional role in providing, but because of ego the man does not and refuses to take on any parts of the woman's traditional role. A woman would be an idiot to sign up for this, but some do, and after awhile, she gets bogged down in having to carry so much weight in the relationship, resentment builds, and....voila: 80% of divorces initiated by women forced to carry too much weight because of a selfish partner who put his ego before the happiness/comfort of his wife
It's funny how people cherry pick & twist the Bible to suit their own personal beliefs.
I assume that you were reading from the New Testament. And your whole argument is flawed because of the simple fact that the New Testament completely contradicts the Old Testament. The NT says the exact opposite of what the OT says.
If you're going to quote the NT then use of all it.
1 Peter 3:1-7
3 Wives, in the same way SUBMIT yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2 when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. 3 Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. 4 Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. 5 For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They SUBMITTED themselves to their own husbands, 6 like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her LORD. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.
7 Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.
So there you have it. Your own Christian religion tells you women to be submissive to your men.
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I don't even understand where this coming from never did I even insinuate that a woman should emasculate her man, I just said a relationship should be more of a partnership. In a partnership, at one point in life each person will to submit to the one whose idea/opinion or whatever is best, not just the woman. Like for example if a woman knows more about electronics, the man will have to to her because she's more knowledgeable in that field just like if a man knows more about finances the woman will have to submit to him.
Nintendough
#Kliq
@PartyHeart When is the last time you got fukked? 
You writing lonely trollop novels when you could have been cooking and getting ate out afterwards.
Be feminists and alone brehettes
You writing lonely trollop novels when you could have been cooking and getting ate out afterwards.Be feminists and alone brehettes
philmonroe
Superstar
Not trying to be funny but I don't think you were trying to understand either lol. I spoke on what you said and how it sounds not even about you perse. I wasn't talking about your whole post but thats on me though, I should have just bolded the part that I was talking about. I was just talking about how your first sentence sounded when I wrote what I said. I can agree with the rest of what you said.
What should a man be?
Smarter and more dominant then his woman. Obviously thats easier said then done when you have a generation of men, that were raised by women and overbearing mothers
Drummage_EL
Pro
Looking at American women's behavior, I can understand why men have always controlled & ruled over their women all throughout history.
Women wearing the pants in the relationship is something that's very recent.
Women wearing the pants in the relationship is something that's very recent.
InDePickWest
Im Not American
Once you grow up and get out of the house you will understand there are people out there that love eachother to infinity. My grandparents were married 59 years and they loved eachother till the day my grandmother died. Rubbing her feet, calling her baby, surprising her with flowes... when they were in their 70's! C'mon man. I know you (and the majority of people) havent been in true love yet but when (you finally get off the Coli) it happens..you will do WHATEVER for her...and she will do WHATEVER for you. Not for one to be dominate, and one submissive..but to just make eachother as happy as you possibly can for one another...because YOUR happiness rides on theirs. Its called true love.Rubbing your feet? What on your anniversary? Sounds like that Honeymoon phase. You gone learn about that Mr. TooGood2BTrue though...
Rubbing feet isnt the line between true love and fake love baby im sorry. Maybe your grandfather was just a simp and your grandmother had him whipped like whoooPSHHHHHHHHHHHh.
I understand what youre saying.
Rubbing your woman's feet is simpish? That's a little outlandish.Rubbing feet isnt the line between true love and fake love baby im sorry. Maybe your grandfather was just a simp and your grandmother had him whipped like whoooPSHHHHHHHHHHHh.
There is certain behavior that locks a man into behavior that puts his love in question when he stops. Its doubtful that a man is rubbin his wifes feet all the time because when he doesnt feel like rubbing her feet anymore after the honeymoon phase is over shes gonna be like
*how come you dont rub my feet anymore*
*you dont love me anymore* You know how yall are 
It takes a special kind of man to rub a womans ashy ass feet for decades and risk having his committment brought into question down the road. Most men will do to much early on and get a woman used to TO MUCH then suffer when they cant keep it up. I believe that an old ass nikka would have to be a simp of the highest caliber to rub feet from his 20s into his 70's. Love isnt like Hallmark Cards and movies.
Majestic Pape
The-Coli = W SOHH = L
How the hell did this thread get to 40+ pages?