Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau accuses Indian government of involvement in killing of Canadian Sikh leader

[Professor Emeritus]

So? He’s right about intelligence and the history.

Everything he's saying is either already known, or just his own opinion and I care nothing for his opinion.

1. Everyone knows that US signals intel is most likely what Canada was alluding to. That was logically obvious. There's nothing else relevant in the thread that he's "right" about.


2. The "we all know Canada harbors terrorists" line was bullshyt poisoning the well. This guy left India nearly 30 years ago in the 1990s, yet wasn't declared a terrorist by India until 2020, over a decade after the terror attack they're now claiming he masterminded. He's never been convicted of anything and India still hasn't shared what their information is that's making the basis of their claims. And there probably isn't a government in the world right now who has falsely accused more of its political enemies of terrorism than Modi's government.

Look how differently these outlets report on it:

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3. All that bytching "we shouldn't accuse our allies of doing bad things even if it's true!" shyt was pathetic. And that's the main thing that triggered me to respond. This isn't just about this incident - he's basically suggesting that the Modi government should get a huge pass from the West for America's own strategic reasons, so who cares who they kill?




And isn't this the same guy who insisted for years that Mueller was gonna nail everyone and they were all going to jail? I bet you posted the shyt out of him. He had so many wrong wrong takes even apart from being a right-winger at heart.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yeah...this could get messy...if Canada knew he was being threatened, why didn't they do more to stop the potential attack?

 

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3. All that bytching "we shouldn't accuse our allies of doing bad things even if it's true!" shyt was pathetic. And that's the main thing that triggered me to respond. This isn't just about this incident - he's basically suggesting that the Modi government should get a huge pass from the West for America's own strategic reasons, so who cares who they kill?

This happens all the time.

Theres russian missiles that land in NATO countries or mysterious deaths that dont go fully explained all the time: Word to Mikhail Lesin or Seth Rich (I think the Russians did it) ...

Canada is a middle power. The USA might have helped with the intel, but Canada is responsible for the response...so... what do you want to happen, since you're so outraged?

So yeah, depending on the target, the players, and the fall out...some governments will let it slide.

 

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And isn't this the same guy who insisted for years that Mueller was gonna nail everyone and they were all going to jail? I bet you posted the shyt out of him. He had so many wrong wrong takes even apart from being a right-winger at heart.

We will find out in years that Trump colluded and the Russia-Gate people were correct.

Same thing happened with JFK/LBJ, Nixon and Reagan and Bush 1 and 2.

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You should humble yourself on a lot of these matters. You dont really study the history of intelligence, espionage, or some of the nuance here.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

We will find out in years that Trump colluded and the Russia-Gate people were correct.

I'm not talking about whether he colluded. I'm talking about how confident that commentator was that Mueller was gonna lock everyone up.

You should humble yourself on a lot of these matters. You dont really study the history of intelligence, espionage, or some of the nuance here.

Huh? WTF are you trying to say that has any relation to our discussion?

I think India's ruling party are a bunch of piece of shyt fascists who use violence and terror to silence minorities. I think we should speak up about that even when it happens in their own country. When they branch out to the same sort of bullshyt in OUR countries, to keep our mouths shut just so we can be happy trade partners would be a moral catastrophe.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm not talking about whether he colluded. I'm talking about how confident that commentator was that Mueller was gonna lock everyone up.

So? They're all being indicted for various offenses either way.

Graymail and Parallel Reconstruction is real.

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Huh? WTF are you trying to say that has any relation to our discussion?

I think India's ruling party are a bunch of piece of shyt fascists who use violence and terror to silence minorities. I think we should speak up about that even when it happens in their own country. When they branch out to the same sort of bullshyt in OUR countries, to keep our mouths shut just so we can be happy trade partners would be a moral catastrophe.

Yeah. OK. But so is Russia and China and everything they do doesn't get front-paged either.

It's about picking the battle. It seems Trudeau kinda jumped the gun on something that would normally be handled in back channels.

 

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[BigMoneyGrip]

India treating Canada the way Russia treats the UK

Bout to be a new fly zone for India in a minute…

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Yeah...this could get messy...if Canada knew he was being threatened, why didn't they do more to stop the potential attack?

Canada most likely told india on the low to cut that bullshyt out for whatever they had planned..

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Yeah...this could get messy...if Canada knew he was being threatened, why didn't they do more to stop the potential attack?

lol - Modi has denied involvement in the strongest possible terms. What's the point of denying it privately when Canada already has the recordings?

This right-winger is just emoting his own feelings about Trudeau under the guise of reporting about India. If Canada had a "strong" right-wing government in charge, then what would we be seeing different?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

lol - Modi has denied involvement in the strongest possible terms. What's the point of denying it privately when Canada already has the recordings?

What?? India did NOT deny it in private. They basically didn’t challenge any the USA or Canada said.



This is why it looks bad for Trudeau if they don’t stick the landing in this… because… if they didn’t plan how to roll this out because they got spooked by the Canadian press then they should plan for contingencies to prove what they have for the public. They seem like they’re not prepared to roll this out.

So yeah this is why Canada likely wanted to avoid this. People will be looking at why Canada didn’t do more to protect this guy. Remember, countries will just let these killings happen *cough* *cough* because they would also have to acknowledge that they could have STOPPED IT.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

lol - Modi has denied involvement in the strongest possible terms. What's the point of denying it privately when Canada already has the recordings?

What?? India did NOT deny it in private.

That's what I'm saying, Mr. Reading Comprehension Wizard. They had zero reason to deny it privately, because they knew that Canada already knows everything. So for your Twitterer to claim that their failure to deny it privately is some reflection of their lack of respect for Trudeau is just silly.

This is why it looks bad for Trudeau if they don’t stick the landing in this… because… if they didn’t plan how to roll this out because they got spooked by the Canadian press then they should plan for contingencies to prove what they have for the public. They seem like they’re not prepared to roll this out.

You're talking as if anyone other than pro-Modi bots has any doubt that India did this shyt. Whether Canada proves it or not will make no difference to anyone.

I swear, you just follow the hype cycles like a horny dog. Get off social media and get some perspective.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You're talking as if anyone other than pro-Modi bots has any doubt that India did this shyt. Whether Canada proves it or not will make no difference to anyone.

You need to stop being so reactionary.

This can backfire on Canada in so much as they lose moral authority in not doing enough to prevent this if it comes out how much they knew before hand.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You need to stop being so reactionary.

This can backfire on Canada in so much as they lose moral authority in not doing enough to prevent this if it comes out how much they knew before hand.

So you think Canada's moral authority would come from remaining silent about assassinations.


If they didn't do enough to stop the assassination beforehand, then THAT is the problem. Staying silent afterward is only some magic redemption for fukkups in your cynical political world, where any sin can be erased so long as you spin it right afterwards.