Canada closes Iran embassy, set to oust diplomats

[Techniec]

You're actually less objective than I am because you expect only Iran to behave rationally while i expect everyone to behave rationally. Iran WILL and IS behaving rationally which could lead to other nations behaving rationally as well. What happened in Pakistan is Indian built nuclear weapons and, RATIONALLY, Pakistan followed suit. Pakistan doesn't exert much influence because they have parity in the region with India but I would argue that do hold much more influence today than they did pre-nuclear.

Iran poses no threat to the US as far as relative power is concerned because we are far superior. But they do pose a threat to relative power in the region which could lead to other states behaving RATIONALLY in attempting to acquire nuclear weapons themselves to reach parity and hence sparking a nuclear race. What's to stop the countries in the region to not behave rationally? That's problematic in such a volatile region where we hold interests. Now you could argue that if that's a problem why not eliminate all nuclear weapons in the region(ie Israel). IMO, stable liberal governments are allowed nuclear deterrent. That's ideological and an ideology that is shared by most people in the US military what can I say.

israel is not a stable liberal govt though. and you use the domino theory (iran getting a nuke, leads to others) but that domino didnt start with iran, it already began with israel, pakistan, india and russian getting nukes. all of whom are in irans neighbourhood. irans policies are simply reactionary

 

[Robbie3000]

You're actually less objective than I am because you expect only Iran to behave rationally while i expect everyone to behave rationally. Iran WILL and IS behaving rationally which could lead to other nations behaving rationally as well. What happened in Pakistan is Indian built nuclear weapons and, RATIONALLY, Pakistan followed suit. Pakistan doesn't exert much influence because they have parity in the region with India but I would argue that do hold much more influence today than they did pre-nuclear.

Iran poses no threat to the US as far as relative power is concerned because we are far superior. But they do pose a threat to relative power in the region which could lead to other states behaving RATIONALLY in attempting to acquire nuclear weapons themselves to reach parity and hence sparking a nuclear race. What's to stop the countries in the region to not behave rationally? That's problematic in such a volatile region where we hold interests. Now you could argue that if that's a problem why not eliminate all nuclear weapons in the region(ie Israel). IMO, stable liberal governments are allowed nuclear deterrent. That's ideological and an ideology that is shared by most people in the US military what can I say.

Well if you argue that parity was achieved by both India and Pakistan acquiring nuclear weapons, then the same argument can be made in the case of Israel and Iran and could result in a more stable ME when mutually assured destruction is guaranteed. I bet Israel would stop being belligerent in the ways they deal with their neighbors. That scenario could result in serious and fair peace talks that would relieve the US of playing the role of hall monitor.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

You're actually less objective than I am because you expect only Iran to behave rationally while i expect everyone to behave rationally. Iran WILL and IS behaving rationally which could lead to other nations behaving rationally as well. What happened in Pakistan is Indian built nuclear weapons and, RATIONALLY, Pakistan followed suit. Pakistan doesn't exert much influence because they have parity in the region with India but I would argue that do hold much more influence today than they did pre-nuclear.

Iran poses no threat to the US as far as relative power is concerned because we are far superior. But they do pose a threat to relative power in the region which could lead to other states behaving RATIONALLY in attempting to acquire nuclear weapons themselves to reach parity and hence sparking a nuclear race. What's to stop the countries in the region to not behave rationally? That's problematic in such a volatile region where we hold interests. Now you could argue that if that's a problem why not eliminate all nuclear weapons in the region(ie Israel). IMO, stable liberal governments are allowed nuclear deterrent. That's ideological and an ideology that is shared by most people in the US military what can I say.

Only one country has ever used a nuclear weapon on another country. That's the country you need to be worried about.

 

[theworldismine13]

So regular elections is a democracy...

Elections by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think you have no fukkin clue what a democracy is or even live in one. Words coming from you are just words built by someone else that you continue to use.

so you consider Iran to be a democracy?

 

[the next guy]

I'm sure they are also, im not pro isreal, in fact I've called Israel a bunch racist European spoiled brats that need to get smacked down

but isreal is important for strategic reasons and they are a democracy, and Jews don't make threads demanding that black people support them

No they say that blacks should be thankful to them for whatever reasons. All minority groups do. Any civil rights movement is dead in the water without blacks.

 

[theworldismine13]

No they say that blacks should be thankful to them for whatever reasons. All minority groups do. Any civil rights movement is dead in the water without blacks.

if tlol or any other jewish poster starts talking like that, i would say the same thing im saying now to muslims, black people do not owe a god dam thing to israel or jews

 

[the next guy]

if tlol or any other jewish poster starts talking like that, i would say the same thing im saying now to muslims, black people do not owe a god dam thing to israel or jews

fair enough. Black > all and that's how it should be.

 

[Gallo]

israel is not a stable liberal govt though. and you use the domino theory (iran getting a nuke, leads to others) but that domino didnt start with iran, it already began with israel, pakistan, india and russian getting nukes. all of whom are in irans neighbourhood. irans policies are simply reactionary

I don't follow Israels political system but all indications are that they are. I know one thing, Iran is not. That's no excuse to allow the possibility of that domino to continue - especially in that region.

Well if you argue that parity was achieved by both India and Pakistan acquiring nuclear weapons, then the same argument can be made in the case of Israel and Iran and could result in a more stable ME when mutually assured destruction is guaranteed. I bet Israel would stop being belligerent in the ways they deal with their neighbors. That scenario could result in serious and fair peace talks that would relieve the US of playing the role of hall monitor.

For whatever reason, India decided that it wasn't in their best interest to attack Pakistan nuclear facilities - I wish they had. Whether or not that was a smart decision for India I don't know enough to say. I know for the US, it would have saved us a ton of present day headaches like nuclear proliferation, the billions in aid given to Pakistan that helps secure their nuclear facilities and which they also use in aid of the Taliban.

I don't see how a possible arms race aids stability in the region. You aren't as objective as you claim to be. Here you are again saying we should allow Iran be rational and no one else. If i'm Israel, why should I allow a country that doesn't recognize my right to exist reach parity? Not very rational.