Canada closes Iran embassy, set to oust diplomats

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The only thing a nuclear weapon does for Iran is ensures the country will not be invaded or attacked by an external power, and it greatly enhances the Mullahs staying power (doesnt guarantee it tho, see USSR)

So legitimate interests of the US are only threatened, if the US was already hellbent on attacking Iran

in which case the US is a naked aggressor and this conversation is moot
 

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theworldismine hasn't read the Talmud when he speaks of dirty filty pedo religion.

I'm sure they are also, im not pro isreal, in fact I've called Israel a bunch racist European spoiled brats that need to get smacked down

but isreal is important for strategic reasons and they are a democracy, and Jews don't make threads demanding that black people support them
 

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:noah: @ me getting that 2002 deja vu feeling re the build up to the iraq war

then and now, i was online arguing with americans

motherfukkers wont learn, unless shiit gets real

persians are useless to me, but boy i wanna see em go down fighting
 

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I'm sure they are also, im not pro isreal, in fact I've called Israel a bunch racist European spoiled brats that need to get smacked down

but isreal is important for strategic reasons and they are a democracy, and Jews don't make threads demanding that black people support them

How many more years you going to do this breh? No offense, but come on.
 

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:noah: @ me getting that 2002 deja vu feeling re the build up to the iraq war

then and now, i was online arguing with americans

motherfukkers wont learn, unless shiit gets real

persians are useless to me, but boy i wanna see em go down fighting

I don't think so

Saddam was isolated, meanwhile a lot of countries are neutral with iran and just consider these sanctions / war drumbeat annoying

but I dunno.. we'll have to see

certainly if Romney gets in there it's going to be a clusterfukk
 

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I don't have this fear of them holding the keys to nuclear weapons because I believe they will behave rationally. Pakistan has nukes and how much influence do they exert in the region? I think this posture we have taken with respect to Iran is counter productive. We actually aid Iran's imperialistic goals by our meddling in other nation's affairs.

But I'm looking at this issue objectively and not necessarily through America's lenses.

You're actually less objective than I am because you expect only Iran to behave rationally while i expect everyone to behave rationally. Iran WILL and IS behaving rationally which could lead to other nations behaving rationally as well. What happened in Pakistan is Indian built nuclear weapons and, RATIONALLY, Pakistan followed suit. Pakistan doesn't exert much influence because they have parity in the region with India but I would argue that do hold much more influence today than they did pre-nuclear.

Iran poses no threat to the US as far as relative power is concerned because we are far superior. But they do pose a threat to relative power in the region which could lead to other states behaving RATIONALLY in attempting to acquire nuclear weapons themselves to reach parity and hence sparking a nuclear race. What's to stop the countries in the region to not behave rationally? That's problematic in such a volatile region where we hold interests. Now you could argue that if that's a problem why not eliminate all nuclear weapons in the region(ie Israel). IMO, stable liberal governments are allowed nuclear deterrent. That's ideological and an ideology that is shared by most people in the US military what can I say.
 
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