can you ever forgive stacey dash for her conservatism?

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Black republicans today are certified c00nS... Why would you vote for a party that works completely against your interests (when they're not too busy trying to disenfranchise you from voting)?
Putting token black or latino faces out there while spewing birther crap at Obama and "self-deportation for illegal aliens" at latinos won't change anything. It's about the policies, not the messengers.
Today, black folks either have to vote democrat or stay home. We just go with the lesser of evils. :rudy:
Of course, black people supported the GOP in the old days (it was the party of Emancipation!) The most racist folks in this country were southerners. Republicans were considered liberal northerners, while the South was solidly conservative democrat.
Then things changed dramatically in the 50s and 60s.
Despite the political risks, LBJ pushed for civil rights legislation, angering southern conservatives along the way (dems and dixiecrats).
The result? Them racist southern voters flocked to the desperate GOP, which was in disarray after LBJ won the 1964 election in a landslide over the segregationist Republican Barry Goldwater.
Is it a coincidence that Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Louisiana and other southern states went republican for the first time since Reconstruction in the 1960s and have remained so? In 1964, Mississippi went from solidly democrat to 86% republican after just ONE election cycle! What the fukk happened? You'd think the Civil Rights Act had nothing to do with this sudden switch? The party of the hated Lincoln suddenly became popular among rednecks with confederate flags on their pickups...

The GOP stopped being the party of Lincoln in the 60s and became a Goldwater-Thurmond-Helms-Falwell-Nixon-Duke-Limbaugh-Reagan-Bush-Palin group. Why would any self-respecting black person associate with these bigots?
Do you honestly believe that men like Rockefeller, Everett Dirksen, Ike or even Teddy Roosevelt would still feel at home in the current GOP? This is the party of Jefferson Davis now, not Lincoln.

Also, it's so funny when republicans keep referring to MLK to obliquely criticize black people.
It's amazing how whitewashed MLK's image has become since his assassination. He delivered hundreds of radical speeches but the media always focuses on his most PG-rated one.
He was by far the most hated black man in America when he was alive. Conservatives absolutely DESPISED him when he was alive (especially William Buckley, Falwell, Reagan, Helms, Nixon and others)...They saw him as a dangerous communist, a troublemaker who eventually got what he deserved in 1968 (Reagan even implied that he had it coming).
They were enraged that his funeral was broadcast on all TV stations for 7.5 hours.
But now that he's sanctified (and safely dead) some conservatives even try to claim him :pachaha:

"The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The "best man" at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade."
- MLK, July 16, 1964 (after segregationist Barry Goldwater won the GOP presidential nomination)
"The war has given the extreme right, the anti-labor, anti-Negro, and anti-humanistic forces a weapon of spurious patriotism to galvanize its supporters into reaching for power, right up to the White House. It hopes to use national frustration to take control and restore the America of social insecurity and power for the privileged. When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events."
- MLK, November 1967 (on Vietnam and Ronald Reagan)
You can't talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can't talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You're really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry. Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong with capitalism. There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a Democratic Socialism.
- MLK, 1968
"You start out in 1954 by saying, '******, ******, ******.' By 1968 you can't say '******' - that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is blacks get hurt worse than whites.
"And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me - because obviously sitting around saying, 'We want to cut this,' is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than '******, ******.'
- Lee Atwater, 1981 (on the GOP's Southern Strategy)
 
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Black republicans today are certified c00nS... Why would you vote for a party that works completely against your interests (when they're not too busy trying to disenfranchise you from voting)?

the main reason would be if you don't believe in leftist economics

fighting racism is not an economic plan, if you look at major cities that are majority black and are hell holes and are ran by the democratic party it shows the limits of leftist economics

a political ideology that is focused on spreading wealth might be appropriate at the national level (or it might be not), but at the local level when everybody from the mayor down is black, the focus has to be on creating wealth, not spreading wealth that doesn't exist

IMO racism is just one factor out of many, its not the end all and be all of how you vote
 
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