Can We Talk About the Failure of DEI (even before it started being dismantled) EDIT: video added

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Diversity was a main part of affirmative action justification for schools. Got a lot of black students in colleges. So it's been some decades and weird as hell for people to say it's a failed initiative.
How so? We are looking at the stats in the workplace. We are talking about things that bring money to black folks.

In 2020, U.S. companies spent approximately $7.5 billion on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives, a significant increase following the protests after George Floyd’s death

Where’s the money breh? Why are there still so few blk folks in positions? .48% of black folks are money managers. We are asking what change has it actually brought
 
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How so? We are looking at the stats in the workplace. We are talking about things that bring money to black folks.

In 2020, U.S. companies spent approximately $7.5 billion on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives, a significant increase following the protests after George Floyd’s death

Where’s the money breh? Why are there still so few blk folks in positions? .48% of black folks are money managers. We are asking what change has it actually brought

What we're the stats before the initiative?
 

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What we're the stats before the initiative?
You know what’s crazy…they/i couldn’t find exact numbers in terms of growth. They measure everything else except what matters when it comes to black folks.

But the facts that our numbers are still so low… there’s an issue and I question how effective was the initiative.
 

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DEI was a guilt laundering sham that saw a transfer of relatively meager (though not insignifcant) capital to a small black managerial class and a hodgepodge of opportunistic non-whites who rebranded as POC. Some people finagled their way into empty admin positions, others into promotions and raises, and a whole lot of lame nikkas cashed in on the speaking circuit at corporations and universities. A lot of books by black authors emerged, the bulk of which ranged from mediocre to comically trash. nikkas hustled the fukk out of the fellowship and award scenes via networking. But all the fast money - the guilt laundering money CACs were initially throwing around that many hoped would be spent creating programs that would spur years of cultural change and reform - just went to higher fees for individual grifters. And a couple years ago it started to dry up. A lot of the faces and voices you used to see reguarly on social media, in commercials, on shows, and in major newspapers and magazines no longer have those spots.

What people did - from Ibram Kendi X to Amanda Gorman to Patrice Cullors etc - was convince the public (black and white alike) that their individual financial come-ups were evidence of collective "excellence." It was cynical and despicable but it succeeded precisely because in the wake of so many recorded, state-sanctioned murders of blacks going unpunished, there was a real radical and determined political energy in the air; but, because there's no longer progressive political machinery in which to invest that energy, DEI culture offered a capitalistic alchemy that funneled the general public's desire for radical political change into consumerism - so they encouraged you to demonstrate your politics by supporting an Issa Rae show or a Jordan Peele movie, or celebrating an atrocious Amanda Gorman poem that had the sophistication of an R. Kelly ballad, or a group of black women in a cadillac commercial. But they didn't encourage any real organizing

What Kendi X did was most cynical of all. He pimped a supposed panacea to racism that was targeted not toward the oppressed but toward bleeding heart whites and corporate HR culture. Any book serious about change equips the oppressed with the language to make sense of their oppression, so they might move toward liberation. His book centered white people undergoing a new self-help exercise to solve racism. A counterintuitive strategy that created a culture of bookclubs and bizarre sadomasochistic workshops, often led by people totally lacking in credentials, talking in contrived blaccents about "the ancestors," "harm," tired, hollow buzzphrases, and even black culinary traditions while an audience of white people pretended to care.

The white people in charge of institutions - be they corporate or academic - generally prefer circuses and mascots to provocative ideas that challenge their positions in the hierarchy, so this was perfect for them. Throw some money at bread and circus acts, wait for the more intense energy for reform to die down, strategize their next steps in the meantime, and eventually pull the plug.

And here we are.
 

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@Walt what you say in your post remind of a podcaster was talking about 3 years ago.

Talking about what's new in media and business lately, in this case the explosion of DEI and whether it's going to fall in the coming recession.
 

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I don't think DEI was a failure at all. They did a alot of great work in increasing Asian representation in Corporate America. Good job HR:ehh:
Asians don't need DEI/Affirmative Action. Blacks didn't either.
But glad their being discussed here without the neg reps.
 

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Dei has ashtrays been present for cacs....... it just didn't have a label........ you are currently witnessing it in a grand fukking scale with every..... single...... one of dip shyts cabinet picks....... the gun is loaded but no one had liked the trigger........
 

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Black women and gay and lesbian blacks ate off DEI

Straight Black men are lumped in with white men at this point.
Yep hiring a gay black woman is like getting a 3 for 1 deal for these companies. Thats why hiring a straight black man is very low on their DEI priorities.
 

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I’m not going to say you’re wrong, but… there’s too many white folks railing against it for me to say it failed. It must’ve done something right with the fact that people have started campaigns to get rid of it and all. Carry on though :hubie:

OP would probably tell you we need to stop voting Democrat as well. Which white people would also love to see.

It's almost like you got a set of cowards on this forum and in our communities who are so prone to being adjacent with right wing white supremacist narratives out of some thoughtless fear of "alphabet gang" or whatever. And then call it being pro-black. A "black conservative" if you will.
 

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A lot of you guys are looking through DEI from a very narrow minded and somewhat ignorant perspective. You focus on Tech but ignore they’re plenty of DEI programs in college and universities that have helped plenty of Black men get their degrees/education which has greatly improved their/our quality of lives. Whether it’s EOP programs, MBA programs like the consortium there are plenty of DEI programs that have changed Black lives for the better
 

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DEI is no different than EOE, which stands for Equal Opportunity Employer, both have similar connections to each other.

For the so-called Black folks on here who want these practices removed, why? What benefits do you see in these programs being eliminated? Y'all cry about Black people not getting jobs, but then the next minute, advocate for programs to be cut that have been beneficial for years, even for yourself, whether you acknowledge it or not.

There are many jobs many of you have held in your lifetimes that you probably would've never had happened without these incentives due to racism and the biased bigotry of employers. Y'all put too much trust in White folks to “do the right thing” or become duped into thinking simply being American means they'll “look out for you,” which, as of late, has become a recurring theme around here lately.

I work for a major news outlet you've probably heard of.

Some of the most "militant", "fukk Democrats. Both sides" type people on this bored have mocked me in the past as being part of the "liberal, pro-Dem party media."

I don't think I even need to tag the collective of people I'm talking about.

I always ask these people...why are you, as a black militant supposedly pushing for very leftist ideas like reparations, at all concerned how well represented conservatism is in the media? You are fighting for reparations without compromise. You cant stand seeing the media or politicians defend the humanity of immigrants and other minorities because that undermines reparations somehow. But at the same time you are deeply concerned with an alleged bias the media has against people who are ideologically anti-reparations and racist? What are you REALLY fighting for out here?

:jbhmm:

It makes all sense when you realize Uncle Tom black Republicans are inherent cowards, soulless ghouls, and straight up scumbags.
 

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Straight Black men are lumped in with white men at this point.

...And then you woke up from your c00n wet dream. Realized you are in fact lumped in with black women, and lgbt people in American society. And then ran to the Coli to cry about both sides.


The fact you actually believe right wing Klan rally talking points that the government ignores straight white men but caters to black women, says, and lesbians says a helluva lot.

Lemme guess. You don't "blindly vote Demcorat" and didn't "fukk wit Kamala Harris" either, huh c00n?
 
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