Can we finally admit that Karma doesn't exist?

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so you're not going to give a specific explanation of the karma process then? "hermetics, space and time, spiritual universe" are not specific explanations.

i'll give you a specific example of cause and effect.

Light travelling to earth
2 hydrogen atoms fuse under high pressure and temperature at the suns core, which releases energy and protons in accordance with E=mc^2
These photons travel at the speed c from the sun's core, to the surface which takes thousands of years.
Once they reach the surface, they travel the 100M miles across the near vacuum of space at speed c and reach Earth.

Now we have never been to the sun, but we have a solid theory and explanation of all the processes at work.

Can you provide any specific explanation of karma?

A Slave Master coming back as an African American to correct the Karma created in a previous life by becoming that which he hated & understanding what it's like to be treated lower than others. Through the learning & understanding comes the correcting & the Karma is "burned off"...
 

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A Slave Master coming back as an African American to correct the Karma created in a previous life by becoming that which he hated & understanding what it's like to be treated lower than others. Through the learning & understanding comes the correcting & the Karma is "burned off"...
Again this is not explanation of how it supposedly works :francis:. sounds like a good premise for a movie though.
 

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Again this is not explanation of how it supposedly works :francis:. sounds like a good premise for a movie though.

It all started in Genesis during the fall... I can't summarize over 2 decades worth of experience & knowledge but I can say every Soul on this earth existed in a state of Grace at one point in life & slowly they are working their way back to God...
 

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yeah, im sure he doesn't want to answer to zeus :whoa:

Breh they know more than you. The simple shyt this thread is about and more they hide from you while telling you a little truth mixed with BS. Then again, some people here are agents here to discord any real discussion :yeshrug:

He keeps prolonging his life because he's scared to die.
 

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It all started in Genesis during the fall... I can't summarize over 2 decades worth of experience & knowledge but I can say every Soul on this earth existed in a state of Grace at one point in life & slowly they are working their way back to God...
answer this, if you walking down the street and you get hit by car, how do you know if that is due to bad karma or not?
 

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answer this, if you walking down the street and you get hit by car, how do you know if that is due to bad karma or not?

Consider this... the Yin Yang...

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The Universe... THIS Universe... by design is perfect... in every way to help Souls who have fallen be allowed to rise above their own Karma lesson after lesson, moment by moment, life after life...

The Yin Yang shows both the Light & the Dark... & that even in Light there is Darkness & in the Darkness there is also Light. Now I'll break it down to Good & Bad, Positive & Negative. Every Thought, every Word, every Action... is only one or the other... Positive or Negative... & all Negatives must & will be corrected until there is only Positive Spirit flowing throughout a Being. Every Negative Thought you have, Word you speak & Action you take makes an impression on the Universe & the deeds are ALWAYS corrected.

Men believe they have achieved so much in their life by meaningless titles, temporary moments of triumph & striving to have material things that mean absolutely nothing after their last breath. You have men & women who look up to others for being famous, or for being rich, or for selling X amount of meaningless music that means nothing because you will not find one shred of those superficial achievements on the skein of time & space or the Akashic Records. The only thing reviewed when you die is did what you do in life bring OTHERS closer to God? The only thing the Universe is concerned with is bringing Souls back to God from whence they came.

Your scenario for example... getting hit by a car. There's too many variables...

Person A gets hit by a car & ends up in the hospital. However, Person A was a person of faith living a very demonic lifestyle prior to getting hit by the car. Being in the hospital gave Person A a new perspective on life & changed Person A for the better... getting hit by the car steered Person A to become a better person for the sake of humanity & in turn they began helping others throughout as result of it. Person A has corrected a lot of their own Karma & returns to further their Spiritual Growth.

However it doesn't always work like that... everyone's lesson is different...

Person B gets hit by a car & ends up in the hospital. Person B was a good person of faith prior to getting hit & being in the hospital turned Person B bitter. Person B goes on to live a very bitter life after being hit by the car. Upon death, Person B learns they struck & killed a child in a previous life recklessly riding a horse. Person B was not wise enough to understand. Person B regressed Spiritually.

Person C gets hit by a car & ends up in the hospital. Person C is a wise person of faith & was living a very positive life prior to getting hit. Person C understands nothing happens by chance & knows it happened for a reason. After, Person C is no longer able to walk & is wheelchair bound the rest of their life. However, Person C holds no grudge & no bitterness in their heart. Upon death, Person C has burned off some Karma & returns in the next life to further their Spiritual Growth.

These are just some very vague examples but it takes a great understanding of Genesis... Hermetics... & Revelations to fully grasp but there are MANY out there who are completely understanding of their own existence & MANY will move on to further their Spiritual Growth until they have become what they were in the Beginning.

As stated with the Yin Yang... all moments of Darkness contain pathways of Light... whether said person can see past the present moment which the Ego lives in to make decisions that will have a longer lasting effect, such as doing the right thing, is up to said person...
 

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Consider this... the Yin Yang...

260px-Yin_yang.svg.png


The Universe... THIS Universe... by design is perfect... in every way to help Souls who have fallen be allowed to rise above their own Karma lesson after lesson, moment by moment, life after life...

The Yin Yang shows both the Light & the Dark... & that even in Light there is Darkness & in the Darkness there is also Light. Now I'll break it down to Good & Bad, Positive & Negative. Every Thought, every Word, every Action... is only one or the other... Positive or Negative... & all Negatives must & will be corrected until there is only Positive Spirit flowing throughout a Being. Every Negative Thought you have, Word you speak & Action you take makes an impression on the Universe & the deeds are ALWAYS corrected.

Men believe they have achieved so much in their life by meaningless titles, temporary moments of triumph & striving to have material things that mean absolutely nothing after their last breath. You have men & women who look up to others for being famous, or for being rich, or for selling X amount of meaningless music that means nothing because you will not find one shred of those superficial achievements on the skein of time & space or the Akashic Records. The only thing reviewed when you die is did what you do in life bring OTHERS closer to God? The only thing the Universe is concerned with is bringing Souls back to God from whence they came.

Your scenario for example... getting hit by a car. There's too many variables...

Person A gets hit by a car & ends up in the hospital. However, Person A was a person of faith living a very demonic lifestyle prior to getting hit by the car. Being in the hospital gave Person A a new perspective on life & changed Person A for the better... getting hit by the car steered Person A to become a better person for the sake of humanity & in turn they began helping others throughout as result of it. Person A has corrected a lot of their own Karma & returns to further their Spiritual Growth.

However it doesn't always work like that... everyone's lesson is different...

Person B gets hit by a car & ends up in the hospital. Person B was a good person of faith prior to getting hit & being in the hospital turned Person B bitter. Person B goes on to live a very bitter life after being hit by the car. Upon death, Person B learns they struck & killed a child in a previous life recklessly riding a horse. Person B was not wise enough to understand. Person B regressed Spiritually.

Person C gets hit by a car & ends up in the hospital. Person C is a wise person of faith & was living a very positive life prior to getting hit. Person C understands nothing happens by chance & knows it happened for a reason. After, Person C is no longer able to walk & is wheelchair bound the rest of their life. However, Person C holds no grudge & no bitterness in their heart. Upon death, Person C has burned off some Karma & returns in the next life to further their Spiritual Growth.

These are just some very vague examples but it takes a great understanding of Genesis... Hermetics... & Revelations to fully grasp but there are MANY out there who are completely understanding of their own existence & MANY will move on to further their Spiritual Growth until they have become what they were in the Beginning.

As stated with the Yin Yang... all moments of Darkness contain pathways of Light... whether said person can see past the present moment which the Ego lives in to make decisions that will have a longer lasting effect, such as doing the right thing, is up to said person...
i read all of this and again you didnt answer the question, you are giving different after effect scenarios which are not relevant.

how do you know if the crash is due to bad karma or not?
 

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i read all of this and again you didnt answer the question, you are giving different after effect scenarios which are not relevant.

how do you know if the crash is due to bad karma or not?
The car crash is a consequence of a prior action... that's how you know... so yes... bad deeds can only birth bad consequences... WHEN that original bad deed happened that eventually led to the car crash is another story whether it was a direct result of something in the current life or previous...

Bad is only a result of Bad...

Cause & Effect...
 

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Again this is not explanation of how it supposedly works :francis:. sounds like a good premise for a movie though.

I think I somewhat answered this question in my previous post though I'm sure we could build on that a little more.
 

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Karma is real...it's just always looked at in existential...instead of real world terms...

An example of this is that most black people believe something bad will happen to white people for the way they have treated blacks in america...

But...they believe this will just "happen"...instead of black people rising up and gaining economic and political power...and then FORCING the bad event to occur...
 

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Karma is real...it's just always looked at in existential...instead of real world terms...

An example of this is that most black people believe something bad will happen to white people for the way they have treated blacks in america...

But...they believe this will just "happen"...instead of black people rising up and gaining economic and political power...and then FORCING the bad event to occur...
this isn't 'karma' though, as you're advocating people doing the work of 'karma' exacting their own revenge
 
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