BlackFruitPunch
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Karma is just something powerless groups of people made up to feel better.
Can we finally admit that Karma doesn't exist?
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Marlostanfield.
High On That Ray Charles
Time does have to do with Karma. Ancient Egyptian texts even states that a thousand years can pass by but it could only be a minute to the Gods. You might experience your karma in your next life. That's why you see evil things happen to kids, means they had an evil past.
The world is base on opposites, really it's all one just on different degrees. male-female, life-death, up-down. To know what good is, you have to know what evil is.
There is morality in the universe. Everything is mental amyways, you create your own heaven or he'll. You create heaven on earth by following God laws he implemented for man.
Menelik II
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this is all unsubstantiated bs. none of what you put here makes sense, or has any evidence.
"That's why you see evil things happen to kids, means they had an evil past"
so a child deserves to die, even though you or nobody else knows what the child supposedly did in its past? I'm sure that is comforting to their parents.
This is exactly the superstitious thinking we need to kick to the bushes
Marlostanfield.
High On That Ray Charles
this is all unsubstantiated bs. none of what you put here makes sense, or has any evidence.
"That's why you see evil things happen to kids, means they had an evil past"
so a child deserves to die, even though you or nobody else knows what the child supposedly did in its past? I'm sure that is comforting to their parents.
This is exactly the superstitious thinking we need to kick to the bushes
It makes perfect sense. Past, Present, Future are all happening simetaneously. What you did yesterday effects today, and what you do today effects tomorrow. So if a person lived evil in the past, evil shall be upon him in the future.
Not tic for tac but I more like a reaction has a reaction. Like whole families who are majority obese, liars/criminal, have unwed families, drunkards, thots etc is probably some form of Karma due to a distant relative and no one breaks the karmic "debt" (i.e. atone and get their fat, lazy, conniving, whoremongering dope dealing lives together for generation next or purposely break away from it). I say is Karmic because no matter where they move to or opportunities they have, they manage to fukk it up and take the same behaviors(debt) with them. People can't be that stupid to keep repeating the same mistakes as their ancestors. Pretty sure yall have encountered people like this if not in your own bloodline.
Menelik II
I wanna see receipts!
this is not karma though, this is environment, indoctrination, parenting and habits. This is not inrelated deeds affecting people in the future through some invisible mechanism.
The problem is most westerners try to look at eastern philosophy from their perspective which is based on a collection of enlightenment and judeo christian philosophy which features concepts such as crime and public punishment ,empirical wrong and right ,virtue and justice and transpose those directly onto eastern philosophy .Its not that Karma doesnt exist...you really just dont understand what it is.
Its not that Karma doesnt exist...you really just dont understand what it is.
Exactly.
Bernie Madoff
Banned
Agreed. Karma is doing bad things and being around bad influences, it will catch up!
A feedback loop.
It's why it's often depicted as a wheel.
Even on a surface, material level you understand that your tendencies can influence your choices, your choices lead to actions and actions lead to effects...that's just common sense without the presuppositions that come along with the concept that we are discussing which are important to note IF you're going to talk about it. One of these being that we are not separate from our external reality. This means if you interact with this or that person you are essentially interacting with yourself. Where you make the jump from simple cause and effect and onto this "wheel" is at the point where you seek to understand said interaction beyond the vantage point of the personality.
The illusion of separation is what turns the wheel...it's what prompts the personality to take actions that may not ring true to their core...and also prompts the soul to seek balance and understanding of these actions by experiencing the full spectrum of the 'karma' that is generated.
This doesn't mean tit for tat punishments...there are no scenarios where someone who did XYZ gets some sort of final destination treatment that resembles some heinous act they committed. There are lessons that you may not be able to learn within the context of a single life experience so it doesn't matter if it appears that so called "evil" people get to die of old age in silk slippers.
This I agree with.
The universe is ultimately neutral, right and wrong is ultimately dependent on how you call it. The "great balancer" as you put it isn't some moral authority, it's YOU. Whatever you think karma is, it's something to be self inflicted/adjusted to best suit your growth and understand of your connection to all things.
Now we haven't gotten into addressing the mechanics of certain things but in general the goal of "enlightenment" is to escape or rather complete this process of having to keep balancing the ledger. To achieve a level of awareness that allows you know that connection in real time and have that 360 degree understanding so that you don't have wonder what it feels like to be on the other end of what you project.
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I can agree, I hate platitudes about 'karma', and it's limitless power to right wrongs, I've always thought that. Very rarely does this version ever take place, as evidenced (currently) by the fact that the current President's fate will likely never account for his actions. It's usually a result, directly or indirectly of the lifestyle you lead and the choices you make. It's not a universal tool of balance and justice.
It doesn't. If you make bad decisions and bad actions over time bad things will eventually happen to you if not at first.
Retrofuture
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eh i don't know my dude, And that means nothing a lot of blacks don't know shyt to even say whats real or not like law of attraction, cause & effect, energy, ect (not racist, I'm black). I noticed some unfortunate shyt happened to me right after i've done stuff I'm not supposed to.
just look at rap beefs.
Troy ave made fun of joey badass friend death....on the flip it caught him when banger died.
Tax been harassing troy for the longest....and it flipped on him and he arrested for shooting.
Meek tried to hurt drake by exposing him.....Drake got a hit out of it. Meek took the loss.
even the bible said be careful who grave you dig because you might fall in yourself
Retrofuture
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I been hearing this lately....
Marlostanfield.
High On That Ray Charles
Everything is consciousness. Can't nothing exist until the human brain says it does. Think if you were born on some deserted island and lived there your whole life and never seen a car, would you think cars exist ? Human brain only knows what it's been programmed to know. It's just like a computer, same way you can program it, you can deprogram it too.
It's people living heaven right now on earth and or living in hell. Heaven or Hell is within your unconscious mind.