Can we be honest about Shang Chi?

[CW99]

trash the lead character was wooden, awkwafina is ugly, chinese shyt for chinese shyt sake, awkwafina is ugly as fukk, Wong was cool i liked the underground fight stuff, Awkwafina is fukking ugly as dog shyt.
5/10 movie

 

[pez]

The problem was the 1st act was the peak of the movie (bus scene and scaffold scene). That was more practical fighting. CGI dragons was not good and wack ending.

The other issue is the story; Asian that grows up in America. The plight of Asians in America is that they feel alien in America because they're the "other". And when they spend time in America, they get Americanized and they seen as outsiders in their old country. So they don't have a real home. Shang is clearly Americanized and then he can just go back to China like whatever. There's no deeper conflict. Black Panther explored that; African black vs American black. T'Challa never had to deal with the shyt that Killmonger did and it shaped both of them. Story was weak, yo.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

The problem was the 1st act was the peak of the movie (bus scene and scaffold scene). That was more practical fighting. CGI dragons was not good and wack ending.

The other issue is the story; Asian that grows up in America. The plight of Asians in America is that they feel alien in America because they're the "other". And when they spend time in America, they get Americanized and they seen as outsiders in their old country. So they don't have a real home. Shang is clearly Americanized and then he can just go back to China like whatever. There's no deeper conflict. Black Panther explored that; African black vs American black. T'Challa never had to deal with the shyt that Killmonger did and it shaped both of them. Story was weak, yo.

Thats what i mean by asians wanting their own wakanda aka black panther. It just doesn’t work in that context because they don’t have the same history in this country as us, the whole asian-american fish out of water shyt just doesn’t work the same way.

Shang chi went back to china and became the man, that was his destiny. Killmonger went to Africa and got bodied

 

[Jaguar93]

Movie was mid…Marvel should’ve went all in. And made Shang a straight up Bruce Lee clone, like in the comics. But I wouldn’t be surprised. If they originally wanted to do Iron Fist. But because the backlash they would’ve received. And that Netflix show was trash. They went with Shang.

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

It was aight, people overrate Shang Chi but I did like the Mandarin but of course they killed him

 

[old pig]

…I did like the Mandarin but of course they killed him

I don’t remember that he died—but good!

 

[King Static X]

The problem was the 1st act was the peak of the movie (bus scene and scaffold scene). That was more practical fighting. CGI dragons was not good and wack ending.

The other issue is the story; Asian that grows up in America. The plight of Asians in America is that they feel alien in America because they're the "other". And when they spend time in America, they get Americanized and they seen as outsiders in their old country. So they don't have a real home. Shang is clearly Americanized and then he can just go back to China like whatever. There's no deeper conflict. Black Panther explored that; African black vs American black. T'Challa never had to deal with the shyt that Killmonger did and it shaped both of them. Story was weak, yo.

I agree about the CGI dragons and the end fight but no on everything else.

First of all, stop with the comparisons to Black Panther. Shang-Chi is not the "Asian/Chinese Black Panther". Shang-Chi is Shang-Chi.

Second, there was internal conflict in the film. He had to deal with embracing both sides of him. He learned how to fight through his father and all of his skills come from his father. He had to learn how to embrace the other side of him (his mother's side) and have to accept that he's the combo of both of his parents. Training with his aunt (mom's sister - Michelle Yeoh aka Aunt Nan) helped him unlock that.

Also, Shang traveled to Macau (which is the Las Vegas of China/Asia), so a tourist city. Then, he went to Ta-Lo: the fictional, hidden homeland of his mother. He had to protect his mother's homeland from destruction from his disillusioned & mind manipulated father, that's a big conflict in and of itself.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

The problem was the 1st act was the peak of the movie (bus scene and scaffold scene). That was more practical fighting. CGI dragons was not good and wack ending.

The other issue is the story; Asian that grows up in America. The plight of Asians in America is that they feel alien in America because they're the "other". And when they spend time in America, they get Americanized and they seen as outsiders in their old country. So they don't have a real home. Shang is clearly Americanized and then he can just go back to China like whatever. There's no deeper conflict. Black Panther explored that; African black vs American black. T'Challa never had to deal with the shyt that Killmonger did and it shaped both of them. Story was weak, yo.

The theme was fathers and sons and how they dealt with their shared trauma (death of mom/wife) differently and eventually came to understand each other.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Oh thats right, i thought it was flushing, i guess im racist

lol@ confusing SF for Queens. Niqqaz always looking for an angle to call a movie racist.

 

[Luke Cage]

It was a better origin film than most of the phase 1 origin films. ouside of iron man. people just expect every marvel film to be infinity war level great or else its considered trash now.

 

[Arcavian]

I slept good through the last 3rd of it

 

[Lobo]

"Takes place in Queens" What are you talking about?

Shang (Shaun), Katy and their friends live in San Francisco which has a ton of Asians (and not a lot of Black people). I mean Queens itself has a ton of Asians too.

Anyways, I thought Shang-Chi was good. It was a cool martial arts influenced superhero film

This. OP a fukking racist against asians. Its obvious. The movie was fukking good. Super entertaining. A fictitious story about a dynasty with magical rings and you asking where the black people at? You definitely dap fishin'

 

[O.Red]

Shang Chi is the best movie of phase 4 but we know that ain't saying much

It's the best of phase 4 because it told a coherent beginning to end story and had a compelling villian. The father was a great character

The gift and the curse of the movie is the MCU backing. Because it's marvel it got more attention than it would otherwise but because it's marvel the movie is hindered by being stuck in the Marvel template

 Shang Chi could've been an ambitious and unprecedented martial arts epic but they only dipped their toes in the water. Martial Arts movies heads have seen some beautiful, exciting, fire ass movies. Shang Chi, with it's muted MCU colors and just good enough fight scenes get the job done, but that shyt could've been SO much more

Imagine Shang Chi headed by the team that did The Raid 2

 

[T'Challa Trillmonger]

the movie was actually cool (dope first 2 acts, and very standard marvel formula 3rd act), but yes the character himself isn't a stand out yet

most folks thought tony leung/mandarin was more interesting, so homie was kind of living in his pops shadow the whole movie, down to inheriting the rings

i still think they should have merged this character with iron fist for the MCU (basically have shang chi be the new iron fist instead) ... they have similar backstories, having another martial arts legacy kid is redundant imo - they could easily scott lang the shyt and have danny rand be the previous iron fist or a future one down the line if they really want him to exist in the films

 

[Ironman]

I really enjoyed it but I admit the ending was terrible. They should've left that whole chi dragon demon army cgi thing out. Keep the focus on Shang/his sister vs their father with the rings. Keep the close quarter combat and you can still have his sister say fukk those rings I don't want or need them. Shang reluctantly takes it and chooses to utilize them for good instead of selfishness and evil.