Can we all admit that Kanye West will leave a bigger trace in music history than Jay-Z?

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@Kenny West

My brother, you woke up on a Sunday morning with unbridled animosity.

Why is that?

It's Sunday my brother, we can resolve our differences with level heads, if not for us then at least for Jesus.

Just keep it humble and remember that your arms are too short to box with God.

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Kanye classics: College drop, Late registration, Graduation, 808s and heartbreak, My beautiful dark twisted fantasy, Kids see the ghosts

Jay Z classics: Reasonable doubt, Blueprint, Black album, American gangster, 444

Kanye wins slightly with 6 over 5 classics. Plus he also got tlop which is not a classic but still a good album.
 

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I'm pretty sure The Blueprint is still well regarded as a hip-hop classic. That's really the only Jay album I listen to front to back along with certain choice cuts from other albums like Allure and Imaginary Player.

Kanye still has a better catalogue, along with classic joints like Guess Who's Back and Be (Intro).
 

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Jay fake retiring in 2003 is a big reason folks forget his catalog imo. Show Me What You Got was the beginning of a new era of Jay-Z. The youth weren't checking for mature rappers, he was already considered old by the mid 2000s.

Kanye is more recent and was still in his prime going into the 2010s so his catalog is seen more modern imo.
As far as pure music goes, I believe in 20 years, Kanye’s music will be looked at as more impactful.

It’s like pure artistry vs talent and longevity.

Ye has changed the scope of music, fashion, influence and culture like no other artist before and maybe after him.

Pure rapping, he isn’t top anything, but his overall impact he’s #1.

JayZ 20 years from now I think is just looked at as the goat (or a goat) and revered. Like every too artist today talks about meeting J or speaking with J as some type of honor, but they are so young you know they don’t listen to JayZ music or really know or care about his catalog per se…it’s like he’s transcended music and stamped himself as the ultimate “career” you strive for, and ppl think about that first over the music.

I think it’s similar(ish) to a Lebron and JayZ. The name Jordan has been invoked every day since Jordan retired in 2002 (20 years) in every part of the world by every citizen regardless of age, and a lot of the time it’s not about basketball lol - it’s about shoes and goat debates - he’s transcended the sport almost (JayZ)

Lebron other hand has the most skill set we may have ever seen, so much so that he hasn’t won as much as others but he’s the one in the goat convo, but it’s because of his overall skill set per se, if that makes sense…

But still most people (gap is closer now) still see Jordan as the goat…
I never understood how Kanye is considered a trailblazer in anything. Every single thing he’s done had already been done
 

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@Kenny West

My brother, you woke up on a Sunday morning with unbridled animosity.

Why is that?

It's Sunday my brother, we can resolve our differences with level heads, if not for us then at least for Jesus.

Just keep it humble and remember that your arms are too short to box with God.

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What's up with dude? I hope breh is alright.
 
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Well imo what hurts Jay's legacy these days is his lack of album releases.

For me, Nas has already surpassed Jay (I always preferred Nas anyway) because he actually releases new music, very good music at that. Yeah, Jay might appear on a track and dropped a verse on other artist's albums but what he needs is new music.

I don't think Kanye has surpassed Jay or ever will buy because he consistently releases albums he'll remain fresher in the minds of the listeners/fans of Hip-Hop and as others have said Jay's music is kinda dated in the sense that his catalog will mainly appeal to the older heads who were around during his prime and the younger crowd that likes going back in Hip-Hop time machine (80s, 90s, and 00s).

You can pretty much tell Jay-Z is done with music because of his lack of releases.
 

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Have you seen what Kanye has been doing the last four years? He’s doing everything in his power to destroy his legacy. You can’t take the booth serious anyway when it comes to Jay because they hate him.
 
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I never understood how Kanye is considered a trailblazer in anything. Every single thing he’s done had already been done
he doesnt write or produce his music cant sing or rap

shows how slow people are today praising someone like him. comparing him to jay z rofl

cacye was the majority of this cac site introduction to hip hop.. because he was "safe" didnt rap about the streets etc..
 

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Well imo what hurts Jay's legacy these days is his lack of album releases.

For me, Nas has already surpassed Jay (I always preferred Nas anyway) because he actually releases new music, very good music at that. Yeah, Jay might appear on a track and dropped a verse on other artist's albums but what he needs is new music.

I don't think Kanye has surpassed Jay or ever will buy because he consistently releases albums he'll remain fresher in the minds of the listeners/fans of Hip-Hop and as others have said Jay's music is kinda dated in the sense that his catalog will mainly appeal to the older heads who were around during his prime and the younger crowd that likes going back in Hip-Hop time machine (80s, 90s, and 00s).

You can pretty much tell Jay-Z is done with music because of his lack of releases.
God did verse generates more interest and convo than the last 5 Nas releases combined
 

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he doesnt write or produce his music cant sing or rap

shows how slow people are today praising someone like him. comparing him to jay z rofl

cacye was the majority of this cac site introduction to hip hop.. because he was "safe" didnt rap about the streets etc..
And tbh Kanye wasn’t even the first to do that. De La and Tribe was doing that in the late 80s early 90s. Even with the fashion thing I’d give Pharrell more credit than Kanye
 

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@Kenny West

My brother, you woke up on a Sunday morning with unbridled animosity.

Why is that?

It's Sunday my brother, we can resolve our differences with level heads, if not for us then at least for Jesus.

Just keep it humble and remember that your arms are too short to box with God.

full
What's up with dude? I hope breh is alright.
I just saw breh angry dapping almost every post in a thread about sports hats
:picard:
 
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