You clearly don't know what this cliche means.
No, I'm judging them by what they do with the talent they have. Brad Stevens taking Butler to back-to-back Chips, for instance, is more impressive than Tark's UNLV run, despite Tark being the coach with a ring. Bill Guthridge took Carolina to two Final Fours in 3 seasons, won a coach of the year award... and no one is retarded enough to think he was one of the best coaches going. In fact, the Weber State and Utah losses are two of the most painful in Carolina history. Though his second Final Four run came as a
#8 seed.
With Gut you can - and have to - ask whether he coached the shyt out of that first Final Four team, or her just inherited a team destined for greatness. You have to ask if the Weber St. loss is as much a blemish as the Final Four run the following year is a badge of excellence. You have to ask whether the second Final Four run proved they underachieved in the regular season. You have to fukking contextualize, judge based on plays out of timeouts, adjustments in games, how well players were utilized... basic fukking shyt. Only a moron says something like "Joe Torre/K.C. Jones/Jim Harrick" are clearly above reproach because they had success with good teams.
This would be like Andrew Bynum telling me my haircut sucks. Thanks.
The loss to Georgetown was terrible. The loss to Kansas was terrible. So many losses at Kansas were terrible. Atrocious. I'm talking tourney losses. Teams stacked with pros.
The blowout losses this year are terrible. The mark of a poorly coached team. The NIT season was all time disgraceful, regardless of whatever spin anyone wants to put on it.
This 18-21 talking point is retarded, and gets no less retarded by you continuing to repeat it. Oh my God! 18-21 year olds! Who can control them? How can they be coached? Who can possibly predict the play of 18-21 year olds against... other 18-21 year olds? You get paid millions to coach the best 18-21 year old recruits in the nation? Well, you get a pass - because they are so young, so crazy! Let us pray for the high school coaches who deal with - GASP - 14-17 year olds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can anyone evaluate good coaching when the children are so young, so volatile, so confused?????
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Roy took two squads with NBA talent everywhere on the fukking court to chips. Like I said, Joe Torre isn't in my top 5 baseball managers of all time, and Roy ain't in my top 10 college bball coaches. To judge coaching by winning % when you have significant built-in advantages is so obtuse it's not worth regarding. Carry on though.
