Can pedophiles use the "born this way" argument?

[Dooby]

Homosexuality doesn't cause discrimination any more than a skin color does. Discrimination comes from particular views other people have about them. If you take the people who hate them out of the picture, the problem disappears, just like if you remove racists from the picture, the problem of anti-Black discrimination disappears.

You have to understand it's an abnormality. That makes a world of difference.

 

[The Real]

You have to understand it's an abnormality. That makes a world of difference.

It's a statistical abnormality, yes- so is the height of most basketball stars, people who don't want children, heterosexuals who can't have children, and people who hate chocolate. In fact, Black people are also statistically abnormal in the US. Statistical abnormality doesn't determine value or merit prejudicial treatment on its own. All it means is that the thing in question is not common enough to be normal, and that there are other, more common things than it. It only merits prejudicial treatment if those specific elements cause harm to either the individual or people around them, and as we already went through, being homosexual does not do that, just like being Black doesn't.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

You have to understand it's an abnormality. That makes a world of difference.

Something that occurs readily throughout nature is "abnormal"? It even occurs in our closest living relatives, the Chimpanzee.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Probably because it's comparable you fukkin' lackey.


That's all you can say? Yeah you got checked real quick, didn't you. All you can do is post a gif, a passive aggressive statement and a smiley.

Higher Learning.

Man, shut the fukk up. You are one of the worst posters on this board.

Every post you make on here is

 

[godkiller]

No because thought a person might be born inclined to a certain type of type or another, they still have control over their actions and thus still bear responsibility for them. A rapist may have primordial urges to rape but he is still guilty of doing so regardless of whatever compulsion he must face. So long as children suffer at the hands of pedophiles, so we are obligated to punish them.

 

[Dooby]

Man, shut the fukk up. You are one of the worst posters on this board.

Every post you make on here is

Yes, great rebuttal as usual. You're not only a terrible poster but probably a terrible person as well.

 

[godkiller]

If a man said he'd always been sexually attracted to children, how is that argument any different from the homosexual "born this way" argument? This is without any action on that attraction taking place.

Why is the pedophile called "sick" but the homosexual isn't?

I repeat, this is without any action taken place.

So does he have a mental condition, sick or "born this way"?

Explain it to me. Don't bring the "two consenting adults" argument because i'm talking about "born this way" sexual attraction.

The main difference is that homosexuality doesn't harm anyone. That's why no one goes to jail for it.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Yes, great rebuttal as usual. You're not only a terrible poster but probably a terrible person as well.

Another post you've made.

 

[Dooby]

Something that occurs readily throughout nature is "abnormal"? It even occurs in our closest living relatives, the Chimpanzee.

You make it sound like it's occurring in vast quantity, which it very much is not. And please, let us dictate what is normal by comparing ourselves to something that flings its shyt when provoked.

 

[Brown_Pride]

i think it's 100% possible to be born with particular desires. I don't think that justifies your actions in society whose rules are diametrically opposed to your desires. A sociopath is born that way, yet we don't condone murder (i'm not trying to hyperbolize here by equating pedophilia to murder (though to me it's on par)).

You can be born with all types of mental defects/differences ultimately the rules you live in are the rules you must abide by. As i don't see kid smashing coming back in style anytime soon you better learn to control your desires and get wit hthe fukin program...or get locked up.

"Being born that way" is not a plausible defense because ultimately you have to choose to break the law. You were not born with law, your acquire them based on your society. Shyt hand you got dealt if your desires are forbidden where you were born. So if you were born a certain way and the law is opposed to that way then ultimately you need to make a choice....
A. I will abide by the law and keep my urges in check.
B. I will break that law and follow my "natural" urges and suffer the consequences.

The issue is law not nature. It's natural for you to take a dump, yet try taking a dump in public, you get a ticket. Should you then be able to argue that you were born with an inclination to take a shyt from time to time so you should be allowed to disregard the various laws you may break? Negative.

 

[Dooby]

It's a statistical abnormality, yes- so is the height of most basketball stars, people who don't want children, heterosexuals who can't have children, and people who hate chocolate. In fact, Black people are also statistically abnormal in the US. Statistical abnormality doesn't determine value or merit prejudicial treatment on its own. All it means is that the thing in question is not common enough to be normal, and that there are other, more common things than it. It only merits prejudicial treatment if those specific elements cause harm to either the individual or people around them, and as we already went through, being homosexual does not do that, just like being Black doesn't.

Nothing homosexual can produce children.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Something that occurs readily throughout nature is "abnormal"? It even occurs in our closest living relatives, the Chimpanzee.

This is just untrue. Some animals engage in what we would consider homosexual activities. But foregoing the opposite sex altogether is unique to homosexual humans.

 

[godkiller]

Nothing homosexual can produce children.

So what? Blowjobs don't produce children either. Homosexuality doesn't harm anything or anyone. Relationships between two consenting gay adults are irrelevant. People will have children regardless.

 

[The Real]

Nothing homosexual can produce children.

So? That's not harm. There are lots of heterosexual people who are barren/sterile. They were born not being able to give birth either. Are they hurting anyone or themselves? There are people who are born too short to dunk (most people.) Does that mean their shortness is hurting them or anyone else?

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

This is just untrue. Some animals engage in what we would consider homosexual activities. But foregoing the opposite sex altogether is unique to homosexual humans.

big surprise, you're misinformed again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovis_aries