Can Newton calls hiphop music poison to the black community

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False equivalence..terrible examples.

Those privileged wealthy groups you tried to compare to Black people live completely different lives to Blacks..they have the privilege of a wealthy social structure that enables them to separate art from life.
Breh in the hood may already be living inside a fps scorsese video game.
What you just typed should tell you that the answer to why the community is the way it is has little to do with a genre that wasn't even around when some of the nikkas posting here were alive.

If hip hop were truly the well that poisoned the black community then you would see similar effects from the many demographics of people who consume the most popular genre of music in America. After all, we're all humans, subject to the same propensity for being swayed by outside influences. But, as you've admitted, you don't. Not at nearly the same rate at least, accept for maybe Hispanics from certain countries. Why is that? Are we supposed to assume that black people are innately less capable of thinking for themselves, or that rap robbed us of the self awareness to separate ourselves and our lives from the music on a fundamental level? I vehemently disagree.

The simple truth is, while rap may now act as the prevailing cultural vehicle through which we express, and ultimately shine a spotlight on (this is important) our own dysfunction, and the catalyst that encourages many specific and notable instances of dysfunctional behavior, this dysfunction has been a recurring motif in the story of our history in America. Which is to be expected, considering the lengths that the people who brought us here have gone to systematically disenfranchise us, brutalize us, and strip us of our culture, agency, and dignity, for as long as they have. Slavery. Black Codes. The Klu Klux Klan. Jim Crow laws. Redlining. Gerrymandering. Police Brutality. The Crack Epidemic. The Prison Industrial Complex. Not to mention the social, economic, cultural, and health crises that affect Americans in general, affect us twice as bad due to our economic and social vulnerability. This has been going on for centuries. If you, the general you, whoever is reading this, can read that run down, and point to a barely 50 year old genre of music as the great bane of black people in America, then there is no serious discussion to be had with you on this topic.

And that's assuming that things are all bad, or aren't better than what they were in many ways, especially the ways some here claim that rap has affected us. For the most part, crime was higher when we were listening to James Brown and Marvin Gaye. Nowadays the only meaningful spike in crime came off the heels of an unprecedented global pandemic. Again, not surprising. But looking at some of the responses in the thread you would think it would've spiked in 2011 when Chief Keef put drill music on the map.

The problem y'all, myself included (to a degree) have with rap simply boils down to it serving as the prinary vehicle to air our dirty laundry. This is why I emphasized rap acting as a spotlight as being important. Rap started as an art form in the purest sense, rappers back then were simply artists of a certain kind, expressing how they felt and lived. They had their lane and stayed in it. Career criminals cared more about getting money and having social power than expressing themselves, so they didn't rap. If they did like hip hop it was a genuine and personal interest, and had little to do with furthering their principal causes, at least not in the financial sense. They had their lane and stayed in it. Then something changed. Rap became popular. It became profitable. And what happens in America when something becomes popular and profitable? It gets exploited. In the hands of the most disenfranchised demographic, it became a golden goose for the bad actors in our community looking to serve their own causes. There would be no gatekeeping to stop what was about to happen.

At first they called them "reality raps" when gangsters rapped about the lives they lived. This music became insanely popular with both people who were from the hood who were already at least familiar with both hip hop music and the streets, and people who knew nothing about the hood that simply enjoyed the music and found it cool, which encouraged more and more people who normally wouldn't consider rapping to follow suit. This initial positive reinforcement and profitability snowballed and coagulated into a present reality in which the standard has become rap being hijacked by the low hanging fruit of our community to celebrate, showcase, and profit from vulgarity through sex, drug use, and violent crime.

I say all of that to say, while I believe that the impact of projecting negative stereotypes in our music is a conversation definitely worth having, positing hip hop as the great demonic force compelling black people towards unseen ruin is simply inaccurate. In the grand scheme of things its role in where we're at now is at best tertiary. A more appropriate conversation would revolve around the prevailing economic and soical factors that encouraged criminality to become celebrated and respected in our community as a way to enfranchise ourselves.
 

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The music reflects the livelihood, not the other way around. Blaming hip hop for some shyt that was happening before its "corrosion" is tired as shyt
 

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The music reflects the livelihood, not the other way around. Blaming hip hop for some shyt that was happening before its "corrosion" is tired as shyt

Initially, the music reflected hood living..now the music dictates hood living.
 

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Initially, the music reflected hood living..now the music dictates hood living.

This makes no sense at all. For this to be possible, there would have to have been an end to all crime and poverty at a point. The hood was still the hood before the music now.
 

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This thread would have gotten computers putin in 2015 :mjlol:


During that year you couldn't say shyt negative about this dude on The Coli :pachaha: He was pissing cacs off every Sunday :mjlol: One of the original Coli daddy's nobody talks about anymore.
We couldn’t even cheer for our own teams without being labeled a cac or c00n :laff:
 

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I think having eight children being raised by single mothers is more destructive than a subgenre of hip-hop, but what do I know :yeshrug:
 
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