Can Islam Solve All of Africas Issues?

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Thank you.

I still think you're missing the point though. The question isn't "Has Africa been united" its "Would Islam help to unite Africa"? to which as we can see would not be the case on the whole. Why didn't Christian Nubians, Egyptians, and Ethiopians not go on a rampage spreading the word of Christ? Their conversions were before Islam as we know, and yet nothing of the type happened? Arabs had a real need to expand and their nomadic lifestyle made it all the more easier not to mention Islam's portability in comparison to other religions, if those other groups you mentioned were too small or had adequate resources no reason to travel to other parts of the continent "to spread the word".

I'm also not under the belief that African kingdoms were united before Arabs, I'm of the belief that African kingdoms of those times practiced religions and cultures that were subsequently lost by the destructive force of Islam. You call it crushed the buildings, but it honestly was the systematic destruction of a way of life going back to their very beginnings. Not to say African tribes didn't war with each other or enslave each other, however in spite of different tribal customs these were still the original ways of African people not yet influenced by people or ideas outside of the continent. If anything, Islam hardly gets enough credit in the destruction of Africa but that's because it's involvement was more subtle and for a longer period of time.

Again, you're missing the point breh. It's not about whether or not Africans were conquering each other we know they did and still do that's why OP asked such a trollish question. In all of those instances, everything was carried out in an African way. Conquest, enslavement, societal norms, everything about those people's existence was African. However, if you put those Africans vs those Muslims that were highly motivated to get the legendary gold of the Western Sudan(Mali/Songhai) and these Muslims repeatedly wage jihad against these Africans they'll eventually conquer them which they did or they may coerce them into adopting their religion and customs in order to place the group under their rule. Not ALL customs were lost but many of them were and hence those old societies which were wholly African are now no longer so.

Slavery has been a part of Africa since the beginning, duly noted, however we can't sit here and say African slavery was at all the same as Arab slavery. Plus lets be reality, the trans saharan trade didn't boon until the Arabs involvement beginning in the 7th century. If anything, the few bits of benevolence displayed in the Arab model can be linked directly to the old African type. And buying your freedom was under certain circumstances and for the majority this did not happen, for every Malik Anbar there were millions of dikkless men and female sex slaves who wouldn't be buying their way outta shyt, oh and you do know many of these benevolent Muslim slave masters would stomp out the babies they created with those slave concubines as soon as they were born this is why there are scant traces of Africans remaining from that time period.

You don't have to believe me about Ghana, I'd deny it too if I were a black man defending Islam.

Excellent points, especially regarding conquest and enslavement prior to Arab contact. Africans have been battling since time immemorial...just like every other group does with its neighrbors. However, people like to conveniently forget the fact that African form of slavery was nowhere near the kind of slavery that was imposed by non-Africans. It was NOT chattel slavery.

If anything what some would call African enslavement would be more closely tied to indentured servitude. Africans usually enslaved people as a result of war and these people retained certain rights and privileges even if they were subjects of their captors. It was not chattel slavery where the subjects were treated as property, had no rights, could be abused/killed for any reason, were forced to give up their culture and were enslaved indefinitely. Also, African did not enslave BASED ON RACE/ETHNICITY.

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So you're saying Africans are naturally ignorant? I disagree with that.
1. Africans is hella vague
2. Yes, there are aspects of African's rejection of western ideals ...and eastern ideals...and...MODERN ideals that are rooted in sheer ignorance
3. Religion and animism and anything resembling unsubstantiated belief isn't something to be taken lightly.

Poor people take religion seriously.

You don't want poor people believing in that shyt in 2014.
 

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Why do you hate God? you should be more thankful for all the civilizing effect of religion

civilizations have arisen due to effects of societies coming together.

Not all societies had the same concept of "god" thus highlighting the fact that their particular gods were whatever they lacked knowledge of at a certain time.

The gods of native americans probably was responsible for more shyt in the natural world than the gods of those who lived in enlightened countries in Europe.
 

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god hater would say that
who said you have to "hate" god to not believe in one? You're the one who seems to have a low standard of evidence.
Religion teaches peace and harmony
...yeah, if you think you need religion not to be a dikk to your neighbor without ignoring all the other shyt religion preaches.
the world would have no morality without them

Are you fukking stupid?

DO YOU NEED FEAR OF HELL TO BE A NICER PERSON TO YOUR FELLOW MAN? :what:

Morality is the result of individuals in society working together to achieve united social aims that define how they want to judge themselves.

Altruism is found in all social species...including animals.

It promotes the ability to work together and ensure group survival...and you can't do that without a common understanding that relates to your particular environment...thus "morality"

Every culture has a different morality.
 

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civilizations have arisen due to effects of societies coming together.

no that's the devil

Not all societies had the same concept of "god" thus highlighting the fact that their particular gods were whatever they lacked knowledge of at a certain time.

The gods of native americans probably was responsible for more shyt in the natural world than the gods of those who lived in enlightened countries in Europe.
that was their problem right there
there is only one God, they believed in many
 

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who said you have to "hate" god to not believe in one? You're the one who seems to have a low standard of evidence.
I never said that
he clearly does not believe i God

...yeah, if you think you need religion not to be a dikk to your neighbor without ignoring all the other shyt religion preaches.
Evidence coming up
Are you fukking stupid?

Boom! only heathens would talk to people that way
when you have religion you are polite to your fellow man


DO YOU NEED FEAR OF HELL TO BE A NICER PERSON TO YOUR FELLOW MAN? :what:

you obviously do


Morality is the result of individuals in society working together to achieve united social aims that define how they want to judge themselves.

Altruism is found in all social species...including animals.

It promotes the ability to work together and ensure group survival...and you can't do that without a common understanding that relates to your particular environment...thus "morality"

Every culture has a different morality.

Don't try all that fancy talk, I already proved my point
you should go find yourself some religion now
 

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I never said that
he clearly does not believe i God


Evidence coming up

Boom! only heathens would talk to people that way
when you have religion you are polite to your fellow man
when you have religion you also kill infidels and reinforce arcane prejudgments of things that shouldn't be crimes.
you obviously do




Don't try all that fancy talk, I already proved my point
you should go find yourself some religion now

Yeah...anthropology is "fancy" talk.

You can't hold a candle to me you pedestrian illogical plebeian. :camby:
 

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when you have religion you also kill infidels and reinforce arcane prejudgments of things that shouldn't be crimes.
another god hater spreading his hate of god:camby:


Yeah...anthropology is "fancy" talk.
You can't hold a candle to me you pedestrian illogical plebeian. :camby:
another egotistical atheist
you can't hold a candle to god:camby:
 
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