Can Islam Solve All of Africas Issues?

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lol, its a shame that as modern black Americans we Need to pretend that Ancient Africa was some untied force... and that these kindgoms weren't on some :pacspit:shyt with other sub Saharan groups. We also act like Africans were some defenseless clueless group to the arabs and not their oldest trading partners.

I guess we do this because most of us don't know where we are from so we have no particular area to study or be proud of... we just hype up random kingdoms n shyt.... ignoring their religion, unless its a religion we don't like.
 
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lol, its a shame that as modern black Americans we Need to pretend that Ancient Africa was some untied force... and that these kindgoms weren't on some :pacspit:shyt with other sub Saharan groups. We also act like Africans were some defenseless clueless group to the arabs and not their oldest trading partners.

I guess we do this because most of us don't know where we are from so we have no particular area to study or be proud of... we just hype up random kingdoms n shyt.... ignoring their religion, unless its a religion we don't like.
sand cacs betrayed,conquered,stripped of our culture, converted us , and enslaved us. fukk those dirty ass arabs
 

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sand cacs betrayed,conquered,stripped of our culture, converted us , and enslaved us. fukk those dirty ass arabs
yeah they did do a lot... but you are aware that by the time Islam was created- kingdoms were already not fully 'our culture'. Arabs invaded jewish, asain influenced, and Christian Kingdoms. You should learn the history. Plus trade was happening non stop... there was a trade of goods and cultures.

and what do you mean 'our' culture and enslaved us. What are your people from? Do you even know? There was no unity in Africa before the Arab, Mediterranean, Christian, etc groups came in there--- which is why the nature of the rulers changed with the wind. You shouldn't be only of those uninformed nikkas that claim every ancient African accomplishment as your own, when you don't even know where you are from and you 'we' aren't even accomplishing shyt right here in the US.
 

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lol, its a shame that as modern black Americans we Need to pretend that Ancient Africa was some untied force... and that these kindgoms weren't on some :pacspit:shyt with other sub Saharan groups. We also act like Africans were some defenseless clueless group to the arabs and not their oldest trading partners.

I guess we do this because most of us don't know where we are from so we have no particular area to study or be proud of... we just hype up random kingdoms n shyt.... ignoring their religion, unless its a religion we don't like.

do you got proof Africa had the tribal conflict before the whiteman and ayrab arrived or are you talking out your ass as usual:usure:
 

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No I am not saying that they were king because they were muslim. I am saying that the empires were successful because the empires were Islamic. But my main argument is how can islam be damaging to Africa, when two Islamic empires ruled what is considered the golden age of Africa. You bring up Kemet and Nubia, that is not considered the golden age of Africa, that is considered antiquity. Africa had success after the birth of Jesus Christ. The people of western Africa are culturally distinct from that area and the majority of the African diaspora in the western hemisphere comes from western Africa, and they still retain there cultural influence. I am a African American Muslim and I always attended a majority Nigerian mosque. So I am knowledgeable about western Africa and Islam.

I still diagree with your premise of these kingdoms being great because of Islam. To me, that sounds like you're linking African greatness to the greatness of an idea from a foreign people. I believe that those Africans created great kingdoms because of who they were and not because they happened to take on the religious ideas of a philosopher from a foreign land who found reprieve in Africa. They could have created those kingdoms and been Christian or Hindu or following their own traditional African religion.

So, are you saying that as African Americans we should only be proud of West African accomplishment? Surely, you jest. I am African American...I am black. Black people originate from all corners of that continent as that is our original home. I celebrate Africa as a whole...not just the part that my ancestors may have come from.

Now, if you want to say that Africa can use Islam as a tool to rally people around ideals that relate to anti-colonialism, controlling their natural resources, controlling their financial markets, producing the resources its people needs and harvesting power among black people across the continent, then I'm all for that idea. If you want to say that Islam can be used as a tool to highlight African traditions and create an Africanized Islam that does not subconsciously worship at the feet of the very people who used it to subjugate them, then I'm all for that idea. If you want to say that Africans should use Islam as a political tool for themselves instead of being caught up in the "pie in the sky" rhetoric, then I'm all for that.

I'm all for separating Islam from Arabism and using its ideals for the betterment of African people who decide to follow that religious ideal. But most don't separate the meat from the bone.

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do you got proof Africa had the tribal conflict before the whiteman and ayrab arrived or are you talking out your ass as usual:usure:

no I don't have proof. I'm just making shyt up breah. Everyone knows there was no slavery, war, tribal conflict in Africa before the arabs or cac. Africa was a happy homogeneous place with one big african culture.
 

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yeah they did do a lot... but you are aware that by the time Islam was created- kingdoms were already not fully 'our culture'. Arabs invaded jewish, asain influenced, and Christian Kingdoms. You should learn the history. Plus trade was happening non stop... there was a trade of goods and cultures.

and what do you mean 'our' culture and enslaved us. What are your people from? Do you even know? There was no unity in Africa before the Arab, Mediterranean, Christian, etc groups came in there--- which is why the nature of the rulers changed with the wind. You shouldn't be only of those uninformed nikkas that claim every ancient African accomplishment as your own, when you don't even know where you are from and you 'we' aren't even accomplishing shyt right here in the US.
the point is your praising this religion like it has really done our culture (black African tribes) nothing but more corruption, and violence. a good example would be Sudanese Africans fighting each other over this dumbass religion, there's no need to praise something if it only causes more deceit and violent acts. and we enslaved ourselves in a way that wasn't even remotely similar to the Arab slave trade so try again. they are no different than European cacs.
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the point is your praising this religion like it has really done our culture (black African tribes) nothing but more corruption, and violence. a good example would be Sudanese Africans fighting each other over this dumbass religion, there's no need to praise something if it only causes more deceit and violent acts. and we enslaved ourselves in a way that wasn't even remotely similar to the Arab slave trade so try again. they are no different than European cacs.
I'm not praising anything... just saying to quit making shyt up just because you don't like something.

Also, I already made the point that cac and arab slavery was different than african slavery in some ways, before you even posted.
Does that mean that Africa was unified before Islam existed?
Does that mean that Christian groups and a few other random groups didn't rape the land, culture, etc before Islam even existed?
And nikka you really don't know anything about the Sudanese conflict, stop it.

And I see you didn't answer my originals questions that would prove that your not just some ignorant nikka talking shyt :rudy:
 

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I'm not praising anything... just saying to quit making shyt up just because you don't like something.

Also, I already made the point that cac and arab slavery was different than african slavery in some ways.
Does that mean that Africa was unified before Islam existed?
Does that mean that Christian groups and a few other random groups didn't rape the land, culture, etc before Islam even existed?

And nikka you really don't know anything about the Sudanese conflict, stop it.

And I see you didn't answer my originals questions that would prove that your not just some ignorant nikka talking shyt :rudy:
nikka name one thing i made up :stopitslime:

nikka what?

you just debunked your whole argument pertaining to religion.

please stop before i school your ass, you fukkin sand cac worshiping uncle tom. fukk you and that dumbass religion.
 

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HELL NO

People in Africa take religion TOO seriously.

They fukking burn "witches" and shyt... :snoop:

Plus, the last thing you need is poor muslims getting funding from saudi arabia (as always happens) to export their fundamentalist brand of religion out of the country and inspire more fukkery.

More Islam in Africa would be the worst thing ever.
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