Can "Hispanic" Be Both Race and Ethnicity ?

[Samori Toure]

shyt complicated, b

"The way they are labeled most of the time in the US is totally wrong. If Brazilians are “latinos” because of the language root then you will have to include French, Portuguese, Romanians and Italians. Brazilians do not feel comfortable to be called latinos or hispanic as suggested, this is non sense at all.

Why Canada, Quebec, specifically is not part of Latin America? Good question eh? Brazilian culture has nothing to do with Hispanic or the so called “latino” culture. Very distant from such cultures."

It is not really that complicated. People referred to as Hispanics are for the most part a mixed race people, just like African Americans in the USA are; however, some Hispanics are not mixed at all, just like some African Americans in the USA are not mixed.

However, to be Hispanic just means you subject to Spain. There are African Countries that were/are Hispanic, but are completely Black. Angola used to be. The Congo used to be Hispanic.

 

[BigMan]

It is not really that complicated. People referred to as Hispanics are for the most part a mixed race people, just like African Americans in the USA are; however, some Hispanics are not mixed at all, just like some African Americans in the USA are not mixed.

However, to be Hispanic just means you subject to Spain. There are African Countries that were/are Hispanic, but are completely Black. Angola used to be. The Congo used to be Hispanic.

the only Spanish colonies in Africa were Morocco and Equatorial Guinea

 

[Samori Toure]

the only Spanish colonies in Africa were Morocco and Equatorial Guinea

So the next question is are the Portuguese Hispanic? The census bureau classifies the Portuguese as Hispanic; that changes in 2020. Because if the Portuguese are not Hispanic then neither are the Brazilians.

 

[BigMan]

So the next question is are the Portuguese Hispanic? The census bureau classifies the Portuguese as Hispanic; that changes in 2020. Because if the Portuguese are not Hispanic then neither are the Brazilians.

Brazilians are Latinos but not Hispanic as Hispanic refers to Spanish-speaking

 

[Samori Toure]

Brazilians are Latinos but not Hispanic as Hispanic refers to Spanish-speaking

The OP is "Can Hispanic be both Race and Ethnicity." That is the question. The answer is no, based up what "Hispanic" actually means.

 

[hashmander]

It is not really that complicated. People referred to as Hispanics are for the most part a mixed race people, just like African Americans in the USA are; however, some Hispanics are not mixed at all, just like some African Americans in the USA are not mixed.

However, to be Hispanic just means you subject to Spain. There are African Countries that were/are Hispanic, but are completely Black. Angola used to be. The Congo used to be Hispanic.

:combodahell:

 

[OfTheCross]

Brazilians are Latinos but not Hispanic as Hispanic refers to Spanish-speaking

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Brazilians are Brazilians, South Americans, Lusophones and not Latinos or Hispanic.

The way they are labeled most of the time in the US is totally wrong. If Brazilians are “latinos” because of the language root then you will have to include French, Portuguese, Romanians and Italians. Brazilians do not feel comfortable to be called latinos or hispanic as suggested, this is non sense at all.

Why Canada, Quebec, specifically is not part of Latin America? Good question eh? Brazilian culture has nothing to do with Hispanic or the so called “latino” culture. Very distant from such cultures.

Brazil does not have Hispanic roots, Brazil is a multicultural country that speaks Portuguese Language, same as in Portugal. In 1990 an agreement between all Lusophone nations was signed to keep the grammar and orthography the same. Is becoming a reality, even though some old school writers, specially in Portugal still use the previous orthography.

If accent is an excuse between Portugal and Brazil this is another non sense. Within Brazil there are many different accents but is within the Portuguese language. There is no Portuguese dialect.

Just as an example in regards to ethnicity. You will find that in Brazil you have descendants of Portuguese (the biggest group), Ukrainians, Poles, Germans, Dutch, Italians, Russians, Austrians, Lebanese, Armenians, Koreans, Chinese Japanese and many others that I am not listing. Hispanics are in a very small number when compared with all the other ethnicities. Even Americans fled to Brazil during the Civil War. Also not to mention several ethnic groups from Africa, mostly in the the Northeast area of the Nation.

Again, Brazilians are not Latinos, they are Brazilians, a Multicultural Lusophone Nation."

 

[BigMan]

".
Brazilians are Brazilians, South Americans, Lusophones and not Latinos or Hispanic.

The way they are labeled most of the time in the US is totally wrong. If Brazilians are “latinos” because of the language root then you will have to include French, Portuguese, Romanians and Italians. Brazilians do not feel comfortable to be called latinos or hispanic as suggested, this is non sense at all.

Why Canada, Quebec, specifically is not part of Latin America? Good question eh? Brazilian culture has nothing to do with Hispanic or the so called “latino” culture. Very distant from such cultures.

Brazil does not have Hispanic roots, Brazil is a multicultural country that speaks Portuguese Language, same as in Portugal. In 1990 an agreement between all Lusophone nations was signed to keep the grammar and orthography the same. Is becoming a reality, even though some old school writers, specially in Portugal still use the previous orthography.

If accent is an excuse between Portugal and Brazil this is another non sense. Within Brazil there are many different accents but is within the Portuguese language. There is no Portuguese dialect.

Just as an example in regards to ethnicity. You will find that in Brazil you have descendants of Portuguese (the biggest group), Ukrainians, Poles, Germans, Dutch, Italians, Russians, Austrians, Lebanese, Armenians, Koreans, Chinese Japanese and many others that I am not listing. Hispanics are in a very small number when compared with all the other ethnicities. Even Americans fled to Brazil during the Civil War. Also not to mention several ethnic groups from Africa, mostly in the the Northeast area of the Nation.

Again, Brazilians are not Latinos, they are Brazilians, a Multicultural Lusophone Nation."

several government agencies label Brazilians under the Latino group

and IMO the Francophone islands are Latin

 

[Samori Toure]

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[Quarterback]

Yall complicating this. Let Hispanic be a race, let em cook, who gives a fukk. It's important to make Hispanic a race so that cacs don't go claiming any of them. Don't be stupid, as the shyt hits the fan, cacs will go to any means to up they numbers.

Lionel Messi is Hispanic, not white. So is Ricky Martin and them Univision hoes. fukk all yall tryin to give cacs an escape strategy

The white supremacist @GreatestLaker negged me like the ho he is. He can't stand to see counterstrategy to whites' ultimate goal. This shyt is chess, not checkers, nikka. We ain't gon let them up they numbers, fakkit.

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[Cabbage Patch]

hispanic is not a race period.

Thank you.

 

[Cabbage Patch]

Yall complicating this. Let Hispanic be a race, let em cook, who gives a fukk. It's important to make Hispanic a race so that cacs don't go claiming any of them. Don't be stupid, as the shyt hits the fan, cacs will go to any means to up they numbers.

Lionel Messi is Hispanic, not white. So is Ricky Martin and them Univision hoes. fukk all yall tryin to give cacs an escape strategy

The white supremacist @GreatestLaker negged me like the ho he is. He can't stand to see counterstrategy to whites' ultimate goal. This shyt is chess, not checkers, nikka. We ain't gon let them up they numbers, fakkit.

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How is it whites claiming them, when it's Latinos doing it to themselves? There's Anglo whites and Hispanic whites -- but they still consider themselves white.

 

[Cabbage Patch]

Most people are idiots. Not surprising.

But like I've said several times before you have to be pretty fukking dumb to think the two people pictured below are the same race.



Hispanic isn't a race. Period. Common sense should be able to tell you that.

Which is why it's beyond terrible to give an affirmative action benefit of the doubt/assistance to someone who has white skin privilege -- just because of their last name.

A poor Anglo should get that assistance before a rich Latino, if it has to go there.

 

[godkiller]

There should be a label for half breeds and mixed race people like Latinos (and some African Americans). That label should be, "Mongrel", "Mutt", etc.

 

[Misreeya]

Middle Easterners are considered to be apart of the Caucasoid group.

However, like the Hispanic ethnic group in America, many of them are mixed with different ethnicities and are "purer" the more north you go.


I thought the American definition of Hispanic relates to inhabitants of Spanish speaking countries and cultures especially of Latin America?

SN: I thought it was a little funny how mixed race people living in Spanish speaking countries are considered Hispanic but mixed race individuals in former French and Portuguese colonies are not considered "Franco" or "Portuguese".

I think the racial dynamics is a great deal more complex in the Arab world besides the Levant.