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but i also recognize that socialism is evil overall

and its intellectually dishonest to use capitalist economies to support a pro socialism argument while not mentioning countries that are socialist for real like USSR, cuba and north korea

and its apparent you have reached an intellectual dead end for you to suggest that socialism is the only way for black people to move forward

When did I suggest that? I think it's the most feasible way. All that "support Black business" talk is idealism that's been coming out of people's mouths for over a century. You come up with a solution. All I know is FDR's "New Deal" raised TONS of Blacks out of poverty, directly into the middle class. It's the only thing I have to go by in American history that seems to work and it was socialism within the context of a capitalistic system.
 

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When did I suggest that? I think it's the most feasible way. All that "support Black business" talk is idealism that's been coming out of people's mouths for over a century. You come up with a solution. All I know is FDR's "New Deal" raised TONS of Blacks out of poverty, directly into the middle class. It's the only thing I have to go by in American history that seems to work and it was socialism within the context of a capitalistic system.

yeah exactly, its the only thing you know, you are at an intellectual dead end and the only thing you see that is most feasible is socialism, im glad we have finally cleared up and we see whats really going on and why you are so desperate that you would go around begging mexicans to not be racist

instead of moving forward and moving black people into a new creative age of knowledge and power you are twiddling your thumbs having fantasies about FDR and the good old days, and trying to bamboozle black people into socialism by avoiding talking about actual socialist countries like USSR, cuba and north korea
 

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yeah exactly, its the only thing you know, you are at an intellectual dead end and the only thing you see that is most feasible is socialism, im glad we have finally cleared up and we see whats really going on and why you are so desperate that you would go around begging mexicans to not be racist

instead of moving forward and moving black people into a new creative age of knowledge and power you are twiddling your thumbs having fantasies about FDR and the good old days, and trying to bamboozle black people into socialism by avoiding talking about actual socialist countries like USSR, cuba and north korea

Those were countries with unchecked Socialism. You just said a few post above that contained socialism within capitalism is fine. Be honest and stop flip flopping.

It's not an intellectual dead end. It's called, "don't fix something that works." If you know of any other methods to raise us as a people state them or shut the fukk up. We know FDR's strategy worked, why would we try to get new age and experimental, that's working backwards. But one again, if you have any ideas, speak up.

Stop putting words in my mouth. When did I beg for Mexicans not to be racist? You can work with your enemy. I personally don't see them as my enemy because I've had plenty of chicano friends and have dated many a Mexican girl. You're generalizations are disgusting.

You reek of that c00n Cornel West. Big ass mouf with no solutions. Just endless rhetoric and intellectualization of BS but not practical strategy. Have at it.
 

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Illegal Mexican immigration largely only affects poor and disenfranchised people, namely blacks. Whites make more money and so their jobs are not at risk. The Mexicans in America today are still clannish and hypocritical. They still prefer their own and variously discriminate against blacks in business dealings. They also murder blacks in places like LA. Imagine what things will look like when the Mexicans are the majority and they can get away with killing blacks in the same way they kill Mexicans in Mexico. These guys are not even afraid to kidnap, torture and viciously murder Mexican girls, women and children
You say that whites are declining and blacks are rising but this isn't true. The black population is at 12%, where it's always been. Whites are still between 60% and 70%. They actually breed surprisingly well in the country and will be here for a long time still. There is no Mestizo Hispanic (ie. Mexico-like) country on Earth where blacks are treated on the same level as the Mestizos themselves. The blacks are always at the bottom and discriminated against. Even in places like Brazil where Mestizos are not the majority this happens.
There is no Mexican-black utopia scenario. Every job they take we lose.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/interracial-marriage-stat_n_1280511.html

Its rising. :shaq:
 

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Interracial marriage doesn't increase black population. It increases mixed population and has no real downward effect on the 200 million whites in this country, most of whom date within themselves.
Mixed aren't considered white nonetheless. So the less whites in the future scenario still holds true.
 

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Mixed aren't considered white nonetheless. So the less whites in the future scenario holds true.

But their existence doesn't necessarily harm whites bc/c of just how large the white group is in comparison to everyone else. Whites have 200 million people, the majority of whom date and breed white like they've always done. So far as percentages go, so long as whites continue breeding at the pace they do now, they will remain the majority. There might be numerically more mixed people but there will also be numerically more whites, and percentage wise whites still have dominance. Only the Hispanic population has reliably changed the population and that's because Mexico has like 160 million breeders.

And like I said before, Latino countries are mixed countries and blacks are still discriminated against and mistreated. Whites STILL rule Brazil and blacks are STILL AT THE BOTTOM. There is no utopia or equality for us there.
 

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But their existence doesn't necessarily harm whites bc/c of just how large the white group is in comparison to everyone else. Whites have 200 million people, the majority of whom date and breed white like they've always done.Only the Hispanic population has changed America's demographic.
You say that but interracial mixing are still rising. I'm sure you know what rising means and what effect it will have on our future.

The fact that its rising and those who contribute to it are whites says it all.


Your stuck in the present when the signs of the future are right in your face.
 

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You say that but interracial mixing are still rising. I'm sure you know what rising means and what effect it will have on our future.

Your stuck in the present when the signs of the future are right in your face.

I already explained to you that percentages won't change as 1) there are more whites than ever nowadays and 2) most people nowadays breed at around replacement level only. So while the absolute number of mixed might grow, so too will the whites and the percentages will remain the same. Whites will experience decline due to Hispanics, blacks and mixed but I doubt they'll ever truly lose their dominance over society.

Also, like I said before, mixed societies are no panacea for blacks. Blacks (or the blackest) are still at the bottom and whites (or the whitest) still at the top.
 

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I already explained to you that percentages won't change as 1) there are more whites than ever nowadays and 2) most people nowadays breed at around replacement level only. So while the absolute number of mixed might grow, so too will the whites and the percentages will remain the same. Whites will decline due to Hispanics, blacks and mixed but I doubt they'll ever truly lose their dominance over society.

Also, like I said before, mixed societies are no panacea for blacks. Blacks (or the blackest) are still at the bottom and whites (or the whitest) still at the top. So it's the same wolf dressed in different cloth.
http://o.dailycaller.com/thedailyca...outpace-birth-rate,51ba0a5cda27f5d9d0dec3cb/1

That looks like a decline in white people to me. :lupe:
 

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That was because of the recession. It's fearmongering to get white people to have more babies. The general trend over the last three decades is that the US breeds at replacement rate.


From the Atlantic (Feb 13 2013):

"The total fertility rate (births per average woman in her lifetime) is about what it was three decades ago."

cohen_fertility2.jpg


From Wikipedia:

"The replacement fertility rate is roughly 2.1 births per woman for most industrialized countries (2.075 in the UK, for example), but ranges from 2.5 to 3.3 in developing countries because of higher mortality rates.[4]"

Whites make up the majority of the USA and so the fertility we see is theirs. If whites and blacks breed like they have been breeding over the last 30 years, everything will be the same in 30 years percentage wise. Interracial dating has increased exponentially since 30 years ago and yet were it not for Hispanics, things would be about the same percentage wise. Interracial marriage would matter more if it woere The only people that change anything are Hispanics. And like I said, mixed countries are not necessarily better for blacks. Skin color discrimination still happens and blacker people are still at the bottom. Same wolf in different clothes.
 
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That was because of the recession. It's fearmongering to get white people to have more babies. The general trend over the last three decades is that the US breeds at replacement rate.


From the Atlantic (Feb 13 2013):

"The total fertility rate (births per average woman in her lifetime) is about what it was three decades ago."

cohen_fertility2.jpg


From Wikipedia:

"The replacement fertility rate is roughly 2.1 births per woman for most industrialized countries (2.075 in the UK, for example), but ranges from 2.5 to 3.3 in developing countries because of higher mortality rates.[4]"

Whites make up the majority of the USA and so the fertility we see is theirs. If whites and blacks breed like they have been breeding over the last 30 years, everything will be the same in 30 years percentage wise. Interracial dating has increased exponentially since 30 years ago and yet were it not for Hispanics, things would be about the same percentage wise. Interracial marriage would matter more if it woere The only people that change anything are Hispanics. And like I said, mixed countries are not necessarily better for blacks. Skin color discrimination still happens and blacker people are still at the bottom. Same wolf in different clothes.
Racial mixing between blacks and whites affects white population and lowers their reproduction rate because of mixed child being born being one less white person being born. Then you also add the fact that interracial marriage is rising is even more as anything thing against the white population rate, then you add in the rising Hispanics who also race mix as well. Then finally you add in the liberal children who are way less likely to follow in the footsteps of their racist ancestors.

All of these add up to a future where whites are the minority.

You can hope all you want for the white population to keep but all what I mentioned shows otherwise.

Even on this site you see black males worshipping white females. More proof of the rise in interracial dating right in front if your eyes. :ufdup:

There are a new generation of Humans coming around and they are the future. Its best if you take notice of them to see what's really going on.
 

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Racial mixing between blacks and whites affects white population and lowers their reproduction rate because of mixed child being born being one less white person being born. Then you also add the fact that interracial marriage is rising is even more as anything thing against the white population rate, then you add in the rising Hispanics who also race mix as well. Then finally you add in the liberal children who are way less likely to follow in the footsteps of their racist ancestors.

It really just increases the mixed population, but doesn't affect the white population relatively. It doesn't affect white population because whites still overwhelmingly birth white kids at a rate high enough to replace their current population. Not every white has to breed pure white for whites to remain the majority, though it obviously helps them to breed pure white always. Percentage wise they'll remain about the same as they are now as long as they keep up the rate they've had the last 30 years and Hispanics don't drastically grow.

All of these add up to a future where whites are the minority.

You can hope all you want for the white population to keep but all what I mentioned shows otherwise.

Even on this site you see black males worshipping white females. More proof of the rise in interracial dating right in front if your eyes. :ufdup:

There are a new generation of Humans coming around and they are the future. Its best if you take notice of them to see what's really going on.

I am just explaining to you the facts, bruh. I'm black myself. For anything to affect whites, it has to affect their replacement level at the wider (100 milion) level. They have a large enough population to shave off some and still reach their replacement goals if most breed white.

Blacks don't benefit from race-mixing. The entirety of the Americas is mixed variously and blacks are still at the bottom. Mixed people add layers of confusion and doubt.s Blacks should NOT interbreed and just produce PURER black babies at higher than average replacement level. That means, black MEN and WOMEN. No cacs and no Mexicans. In this way we will retain our African traits, increase unity and peoplehood, as well as increase our population. The rest of shyt is irrelevant at best and regressive at worse if you think about it.
 
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It really just increases the mixed population, but doesn't affect the white population relatively. It doesn't affect white population because whites still overwhelmingly birth white kids at a rate high enough to replace their current population. Not every white has to breed pure white for whites to remain the majority, though it obviously helps them to breed pure white always. Percentage wise they'll remain about the same as they are now as long as they keep up the rate they've had the last 30 years and Hispanics don't drastically grow.

I am just explaining to you the facts, bruh. I'm black myself. For anything to affect whites, it has to affect their replacement level at the wider (100 milion) level. They have a large enough population to shave off some and still reach their replacement goals if most breed white.

Blacks don't benefit from race-mixing. The entirety of the Americas is mixed variously and blacks are still at the bottom. Mixed people add layers of confusion and doubt.s Blacks should NOT interbreed and just produce PURER black babies at higher than average replacement level. That means, black MEN and WOMEN. No cacs and no Mexicans. In this way we will retain our African traits while increasing our population. The rest of shyt is irrelevant at best and regressive at worse if you think about it.
You can argue with the population of whites but Hispanics population is rising and mixing is rising as well.

All of this that you are mentioning affects the present. What I mentioned affects the near future.

Nothing you say can take away the fact that the rate is rising. I'm sure you don't need to look up the definition of rising to know what it means.

Overtaking is in the horizon and you refuse to acknowledge it.

It's not just race mixing its the rise of liberalism among the youth as well. Race mixing and the rise of liberalism does nothing to benefit white racism at all and it actually hurts white racism which is a huge benefit for blacks.
 

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Mixing doesn't decrease their total numbers but it does decrease their voting power.

All that don't mix, support black businesses rhetoric is empty and has not worked since we've been given freedom. Save it. Sound like some nikka out of the 70s.
 
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